I’m voting this is still a more spectacular flame out. 15 months ago Spitzer took the governor’s office having been won won in the largest landslide in New York State history. Approximately 70% of the voters pulled the lever next to his name.
Today his loyal base is considerably more limited.
Hell, Vitter’s wife didn’t even cut his dick off like she had earlier threatened to.
I think the press must have found out that Spitzer must have gotten a blow job from said prostitute. Intercourse is one thing, but once the media find out there is oral involved, they never let it go.
McGreevy resigned for many reasons. It didn’t have anything to do with being gay or cheating on his wife. I’m not politically connected and *I * knew he was gay and running around on his wife months before it came out in public.
Why the timing, then? He resigned due to a threatened sexual harassment suit from his former lover - as far as I know. If you’ve more information, please, feel free.
It worked for President G.W. Bush.
I completely agree that we live in a society riddled with hypocrisy. Popular culture is saturated with sexually charged messages and then imposes moral judgment on a behavioral response to those messages. Unfortunately, Spitzer broke the law while he held a job intended to preserve, protect, and enforce the law. His dilemma is legal and moral.
Not to sound too paranoid but his name was picked up in a wiretap. I wonder if it was one of those warrantless wiretaps.
Do we have to go through this again? I know there were threads about it years ago.
That lawsuit never happened did it? Then why the resignation? He was forced out by the members of his party because they did not want to lose the governor’s mansion at the next election. There was a ton of dirt on McGreevy that he barely survived without being indicted. Look up John Lynch, McGreevy’s mentor, jailed for corruption. Look up the code word “Machiavelli”. There was rumors of corruption. There was proof of corruption. And much of it pointed straight to the governor. He resigned because if he didn’t he would get hit with all the dirt thats was being held back. Otherwise he could have stayed on and been the first gay governor. Either a hero or a martyr during the next election. Either one would have done great things for his career. Instead he left the office in disgrace.
He did learn one thing, the State Police Protection Detail does not keep their mouths shut like the Secret Service. Especially if you treat them like dirt. So when something happens like you break your leg walking on the beach with your boyfriend and they have to scramble to get your wife to your side so no one will notice, it doesn’t take long for that story to get around.
Yep–and, as others said, it’s not like attorney general is an inherited position. He chose a job whereby he’d use police power against people doing exactly the same thing he was doing. That’s pretty much the definition of hypocrite, except that “police power” doesn’t appear in the definition.
I think frequenting prostitutes is scuzzy, but should not be illegal, any more than being a prostitute should be illegal. I think it’s highly hypocritical to have other folks go to jail for something you’re doing yourself. It’s not the visiting of a prostitute, nor the arresting of prostitutes, that should lead to his resignation; it’s the combination of the two.
Daniel
I asked an honest question; I had hoped for a bit more than hand-waving in response.
Aside from issues of law, he has to do an apology catwalk, and maybe a whole apology tour of the talk shows to apologize to his wife and children, whether he believes it or not. Part of his squeaky clean image is as an upstanding family man.
Now if he was a single guy, and he could show a picture of an incredibly hot prostitute, and say, “Now c’mon, who wouldn’t tap this?”, he’d be applauded by every straight guy in America.
I have no idea what that means. I answered your question. He resigned because of the corruption in his administration and life. The affair was the excuse.
Well, I have never kept it particularly secret, but I was engaged to a violently abusive man, and tolerated him hitting me for the 3 months it took me to covertly sneak the money out of what pay he left me out of my paycheck to afford to bail out. So there you have it, go out and earn money, get slapped around and most of my money taken away, and sent back out the next day to punch a timeclock to make more money. Only real difference is he was very restrictive, and I only had sex with him.
You haven’t given me anything. I’m not from New Jersey, nor am I familar with New Jersey politics, nor am I familar with corruption in McGreevey’s administration other than hiring his lover. You’re simply telling me that the corruption is a given, and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
John Lynch is a safety for the Broncos.
That’s only because this isn’t a thread about McGreevey and it was done before. That’s why I didn’t feel like getting into it again. Took me about 10 seconds to Google John Lynch. And yes there also is a John Lynch in the NFL. But the one I was talking about was the NJ Senate Majority (and then minority) Leader. He was also the mayor of New Brunswick which is the county seat of Middlesex County. McGreevey was a mayor in the same county. He was one of Lynch’s boys and was just as corrupt. Maybe it wasn’t advertised that he was gay but many people knew it. I heard it from multiple sources before he was even elected governor. I heard it from people who lived in his town when he was mayor. I heard it from several people at work who happen to be gay. It was common knowledge in the gay community. He did not resign because of the affair. It was known by many people.
This makes him just as big a hypocrit as Mark Foley or Larry Craig. What an idiot.
For $5500 an hour I’d expect a mink lined hoo-ha that cooks me a steak dinner afterwards and shoots out cold Coronas for the rest of the night.
Boy, did I pick the wrong line of work.
OK, that’s a connection, and given what I do know about N.J. politics, I’ll buy it. I still doubt that he would have resigned if not for the hiring deal (given what I do know about N.J. politics 
), but I suspect we’ll have to agree to disagree on that.
Thanks.
From CNN’s latest update, a potential employee’s comment on her friend’s reference:
I, for one, am not paying $5500 an hour to watch her eat a Blooming Onion.
Sorry, Frank. The man was pretty well known to be really in deep shit locally. He was also semi-known to be gay locally, before he came out. The news stations pretty much all played it as, ‘He’s quitting before they come after his ass’ in the deeper commentary, as I remember things.
Spitzer. See, I’m wondering… would it be better or worse if he wanted the lady as part of a threesome for his wife? Or as a ‘gift’ for someone else? What bothers me the most about this is the ‘cheating on your wife’ thing.
At that level, I’m pretty sure the ladies are not being slapped by pimps at all. This isn’t your common streetwalker.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9807E7DD133FF935A2575BC0A9629C8B63
The Freepers have an archive of the Machavelli bribe code word thing.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193421/posts
Anyone got a better link than this?
Lynch is not the only thing going on. This is what I meant by Machiavelli. And there was more that I can’t remember right now.
Actually, his name was picked up because a bank reported him for structuring currency transactions. It’s all part of what banks have to do since 9/11.