NYTimes letter writer: "North Carolina did not allow mixed drinks..." Huh?

Alcoholic punch was a popular drink before prohibition. It would count as a mixed drink.

Package laws can at least be construed as consumer protection. If liquor is only sold in sealed bottles, bars aren’t putting cheap, semi-poisonous rotgut in the Wild Turkey bottle. A belief that such practices are rampant in a “vice” business can be used to justify such laws.

The Jack Daniel Distillery is located in Lynchburg in Moore County – one of the many dry counties in Tennessee. They can make the best sippin’ whiskey in the world, but they can’t serve it to you at a local bar.

I can remember when Nashville did not have liquor by the drink. That changed in about 1966.

In the 1970s, there were still places in Middle Tennessee that we had to be careful when we were walking “not to disturb.” We knew that if we accidentally came across a still, we were to quietly put our heads down and back away. We knew to stay inside if we heard fast trucks on the road in the night. And we knew not to drink a certain fruit flavor of “cold drank” in a certain store up by Reelfoot Lake in West Tennessee.

I have no idea what the situation is like in those areas now.

And that’s how NASCAR was born. But it wasn’t typically a truck, rather a souped up car with a big trunk for evading the police. The first NASCAR “stars” were bootleggers who loved the thrill of the chase.

It also was how the IRS was born, as an outgrowth of the early version of ATF. (Now ATF & Explosives–great combination, isn’t it?)

My NC county (not listed above) is damp. There are 3 state ABC stores that sell liquor, beer and wine is available at the grocery store, but there is not a bar or restaurant that will sell you alcohol of any type.

No, “saloons” had a bad reputation before that. The Anti-Saloon League, founded in 1893, chose its name for good reason. “From the earliest days of the temperance movement, the saloon had been the symbol of the evil of liquor and the watering hole of the working class. Thus, in the eyes of upper class reformers, the saloon was the den of iniquity that fostered and promoted drinking among the lowly. If the saloon could be eliminated, then the drinking habit of the laboring class might dry up.”

Prohibition may have changed the beverage of choice in saloons from straight shots to mixed drinks, but the bad reputation came earlier.

That was Wake County (and Alamance, and several others).
I am not aware of any statewide ban on LBTD in North Carolina. I know that several local municipalities outlawed it, but not the entire state. I could be wrong.

Cute! :smiley: And were there Five and twenty ponies, Trotting through the dark…"?

“Watch the wall, my darling, while the gentlemen go by”. :slight_smile:

Mississippi?
1961?
Maybe the license was for the market to sell liquor to Negroes.
:eek:

(My guess is that there was some law or other that was disobeyed so frequently that the cops looked the other way, so they put up a fake license as a way of making fun of the situation.)

When I went to Oklahoma City for work pre-1984, the hotel automatically registered you in their private club. I never went to the bar down there to see how it worked, though. Utah appears to have the same kind of rule, at least for places where food is not served. We went to a bar and one of us had to buy a membership - which was $3 or so and covered 7 guests.

Bringing your own bottle is very common in New Jersey, because liquor licenses are rare and expensive. It was easier for a lot of restaurants to just let people bring wine. I lived in a dry town there, which was of course ringed by bars and liquor stores.

Don’t you mean “The average Jose …”? :smiley:

Okay. I just remember Giles Whatshisface on WRAL every night talking about the Evils of Liquor By The Drink.

Exactly. There were a bunch of restrictions on hard liquor, including that it had to be purchased from one of the (relatively few) state-run stores. Even in a facility that served wine, the customer was required to order and pay for food with the glass of wine. Back in the mid-70’s at an upscale hotel bar, a set-up (defined as a plastic glass, a plastic glass with ice, or a plastic glass with water, ice or soda was $3.00. The customer would have already had to purchase their bottle of liquor (before 5:00pm when all 5 of the ABC stores in Raleigh closed, except on Sundays when they weren’t open at all) and keep it in a brown bag below the level of the table, even when pouring a drink.

It was fun explaining this crapola to business people who showed up on Saturday night at 6:00pm expecting to wind down from their trip from the actual world.

And before him, Jesse Helms. Be grateful.