But we still get the extra marshmellow, right? In addition to the surprise?
All you gotta do is take a left at the OP’s ball-sack and I believe you’ll find it up his ass.
That takes one of those wishy washy “certificates of birth” thingys to pull it off.
Wouldn’t that depend on your initial orientation wrt the OP? I mean, a left might bring me to the OP’s cock instead, no? Wouldn’t THAT be a surprise??
Regardless, it sounds distasteful, and I’m unsure if the OP would be keen on a brown person such as myself in such close proximity. He MIGHT just call the authorities on me, and then it would be XT going back across the border…which would seriously suck.
-XT
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-Joe
That makes no sense at all.
The whole racism angle is not only irrelevant here, it is also a losing political strategy. Most people think advocating open immigration is vaguely treasonous, but they are told that it is impossible to enforce immigration laws without being racist. You try to squeeze out the space where a person can be neither a racist nor a traitor, supposing that if you force people to choose one or the other, they’ll choose to be traitors. But people aren’t like that - they’d much rather feel like a racist than a traitor. Especially when the only people calling them racists are the likes of this bunch.
Ah crap, I got here late as usual. I probably missed out on the ponies, and getting a Mexican or even a Canadian looks pretty unlikely too.
Probably just another damn kitteh…
What would be full of awesome is if the Arizona cops, in an effort to avade the racist label, just started asking for EVERYONE’S papers and detaining anyone who couldn’t produce evidence of citizenship. Always with the explanation, “Sorry, sir. Governor’s orders.”
Obama should have told Calderon that we also have a federal law against illegal immigration. We just refuse to enforce it.
I’m sure Calderon would be very pleased if we only treated Mexican immigrants here, both legal
and illegal,
the way they are treated in Mexico.
Kinda’ makes Calderon look like a hypocrite don’t it?
You need to meet more people if you believe most people think open immigration is vaguely treasonous.
There are no more kittehs available right now. This guy knows someone with a few though.
I can only assume that the period after that first sentence was meant to be a colon.
The reason that enforcing immigration laws is racist is because there is no reason to enforce them as if there as if there is something inherently wrong with someone being here illegally. Why is illegal immigration a problem? Tell me why, please? So someone is here without proper paperwork, why is it so important that this “plague” is stopped? Think about that, at try and tell me it has nothing to do with racism.
I’m a conservative and don’t agree that criticizing a law is unAmerican. Not in the least. But there is something odd about Obama siding with another president on ANY of our laws. How about he tells him to mind his own fucking business about our laws? Especially the way Mexico treats those who cross illegally at its southern border.
Bu there is one thing that seems to have been overlooked in this thread, namely that the Arizona law simply mimics the federal law. There’s really nothing new there, except that non-federal LE people have the same tool as the feds.
Note: I composed the above well before it was sent. I see other have addressed some of what I mentioned.
You know, there really isn’t any way to keep illegal Mexican immigrants from coming into the country (or, alternatively, discovered and returned to Mexico) while still being unaware of what they look like. Thus any measure intended to address the problem of illegal immigration from Mexico is going to involve at some point taking note of the fact that illegal Mexican immigrants look, you know, Mexican (or, more properly, Hispanic).
So what are we to do? Throw open the border completely and allow unfettered immigration from Mexico because to do otherwise discriminates against people because of how they look?
This whole situation is ridiculous. Anytime a crime is committed and a description of the miscreant is known, the police will stop and question people who fit that description. Then once it’s determined that the people being questioned are not the suspects being sought, they are released and told to have a nice day. Big deal, huh?
It is a shame that Obama (and GWB also) have taken such a cavalier attitude toward illegal immigration. If only Obama were as determined to keep people from coming here illegally as he is in trying to make sure every “i” is dotted and every “t” is crossed in Arizona’s law, the problem of illegal immigration would be much less of a problem.
I will never understand the liberal propensity for seeing racism under every rock and apparently believing that as long as people come from some group who could be regarded as a minority that laws don’t apply to them, for to do so would be racist. I would have the very same objections if people from any country were flooding into the U.S. illegally, no matter what their color or which country they come from.
I know of no country in the world that allows unfettered immigration. It’s utterly bogus and disingenuous to the point of outright dishonesty in my opinion for anyone to claim that objections to illegal immigration from Mexico is based on racism.
Enforcing our laws does not mean that each penalty be draconian. We can enforce the law and not have the penalties be over the top. You know kinda like the way the laws actually operate.
Elegant. Efficient. Effective. A thing of beauty.
of course, but the attention to ILLEGAL immigration is ridiculous, IMO. SO what if folks are here illegally, as far as I am concerned it is a minor infraction, akin to speeding or jaywalking. Enforce the law, sure. But are illegal immigrants a real problem? I haven’t been convinced they are.
Again, this isn’t about immigration, legal or not; it’s about indulging racism. That’s why there’s never a serious effort against the people who employ them -who are breaking the law just as much; and that’s why there are people like you and the OP focusing on those evil, evil Mexicans. And not white illegal immigrants from places like Britain, Germany, Canada…they are white and therefore not bothered.
This isn’t a serious attempt to stop illegal immigration; we don’t WANT to stop it.
Or do so because we want the labor and they want to provide it.
No, it clearly is about race, class, and the desire for an easily exploitable group of workers.
Totally hypocritical of me here (considering that several of my family came here under less than, um, legal circumstances) but:
Why have immigration at all then? Why have citizenship if you are just going to allow anyone to come and go as they please? We have a process for either working or gaining citizenship, after all.
Because of the scale of the thing, and the fact that many illegals come here and participate in less than legal activities. Look man, I see this thing from both sides here. Personally, I’m all for allowing a more open citizenship policy, especially for my Hispanic brethren and sistren trying to come here to have a better life. I mean, that’s why my own folks came here after all. But it’s not all goodness and light, nor is it all about some poor slobs coming here just to pick your lettuce or apples. There are definitely problems in the border states, especially lately, and a lot of folks of ALL colors have concerns about that. It’s fairly easy if you live in New York or South Dakota to be unconcerned about this issue, since you don’t really see it first hand…but it’s a bit different if you live in Arizona, California, New Mexico or Texas. While I don’t agree with the Arizona legislature in any way, shape or form, I can certainly understand WHY the folks in Arizona are for it, as I can acknowledge that there certainly are issues and problems.
Again, why have any paperwork at all then? Why have citizenship at all? I don’t know if it’s a ‘plague’, but it’s certainly an issue that needs to be addressed.
Sure, racism plays a big part, but it’s not the whole story. I think a lot of folks (again, of all colors) who live in these border states are afraid…not of ‘brown folks’, per se (though I love scaring white folks, personally…BOO!) but of the violence they are seeing. Or they are afraid that illegals are sucking up their jobs (as if most folks in the US would WANT them), or (perhaps more legitimately) that illegals are sucking up services and resources that should be being applied to people who are citizens and who pay taxes for them.
BTW, was actually in Arizona this last week for a brief trip back to my old stompin’ ground, and wasn’t pulled over and abused once by any cops. Never asked for my papers (you can be damned sure I had them with me!). A lot of people I talked to in AZ (non-white people, FTR) were mixed on this issue. Ironically, most of the white folks I talked to were not mixed on it at all…all of them SAID they were completely opposed to it. Now, that could be because I’m, you know, a scary brown person, or it could be that my sample size was small (admittedly, I don’t actually know all that many white folks in Arizona, sadly), or it could be that this issue really isn’t necessarily about white folks being scared of brown folks, but about real problems and issues of folks of all colors…
-XT