Obama, you spineless, whining picture boy.
You may be POTUS but only in form. You work from the script. And the script was written before you got elected. You just made sure you’ll follow the script best.
What a disgrace to the office and the country.
When come back, bring coherence.
Meh. I’m not feeling the outrage burn, but mostly because I expected little else from any President. The US is too enmeshed with Israel to not veto a resolution about Palestinian statehood. “The script” indeed.
That said, and while I am very disappointed at the underlying message, none of the quoted statements by Obama are wrong. A UN resolution wouldn’t fix much beyond giving the Palestinians a bit more international credibility, and only when Israel and Palestine both decide that the situation needs fixing will they fix it. Obama is meeting with both Netanyahu and Abbas directly, apparently to try to move the negotiations forward again. Both will claim to want peace but on their own terms. And we’ll go around and around and around again.
From having read only the first half of the article, I don’t disagree with anything he’s said or the administration is doing.
Completely agree. The UN could, and maybe should, recognize Palestine but it won’t result in everyone holding hands and singing in the street.
Lame OP.
The truthfulness of any statement is confirmed in the world of assumptions and predicted behaviour of factors that keep assumptions such as they are.
Therefore, Obama’s statements are not wrong because he will keep assumptions, or in other words, the system in which they are true, exactly in a state that makes his statements true.
So, yes, I agree with you in that.
My point would be that the underlying set of assumptions supporting those statements can no longer be held to be obvious truths.
Question then for you - do you recognize country of Israel?
And, for crying out loud, UN is setup for exactly situations where two parties that are supposed to resolve the issue are unable to do so.
Yeah, that UN bitch was good in 1948 but not so good in 2011.
What changed?
When come out of basement, bring awareness of what’s going on around you.
I am aware that whatever the President says or does, you will be motivated (and fortunately, not always motivated) to start a thread or otherwise complain. That the thread will be just a collection of right-wing talking points that Obama Sucks, devoid of any additional content or contribution, should be taken as a given.
Maybe you should just stay in your basement and let adults post criticisms of your boogeyman. At least Fox spends a few minutes writing their spook stories to add some measure of content.
Holy crap, how do you keep from boring yourself to death?
The fact that “Palestine” is split between two feuding entities and neither has any ability to control its territory or each other?
Just a guess.
When an alliance forces you to act contrary to your interests maybe it’s a good time to rewrite the contract. With the Arab Spring still blowing, that veto makes the same sound as a lit match.
I don’t know if I agree with you because I’m not sure what you mean.
There are legitimate geopolitical reasons for the US to continue to support Israel, which are reinforced by powerful pro-Israel lobbies. Were Obama to come out publically against Israel, even in a banal talking shop environment such as the UN, it would have serious repercussions across the Middle East in that it would imply a weakened position for Israel, and embolden Israel’s (and America’s) enemies in the region. The fact that it would also hurt Obama at home doesn’t help either. So he can’t come out against Israel.
Israel knows this, of course, and thus happily ignores any pleas by the US to maybe stop being such dicks to the Palestinians and genuinely work towards peace. And since Palestine is such a hot mess of competing factions, many of which are not overly fond of the US, our influence there is minimal as well.
Again, this is not a new situation so I’m not sure what you feel has changed to a sufficient degree to allow the current government to act in a dramatically different manner to previous ones.
You make that sound like a threat - that Obama should act, not because he thinks the UN vote is a good idea on its own merits, but because otherwise the US faces an explosion of Arab anger.
This is one of the assumptions that makes the world we live in and that hold Obama’s statements true.
Point of my theoretical blabbering in a post earlier was that this is no longer self-evident truth. There are no longer geopolitical reasons to support Israel.
There was not before Arab Spring.
Now, even less.
Oh, please…
The imagry is yours.
Fayyed would certainly disagree.