Obama to Palestinians: "No short cuts"

Dude, I’m fucking QUOTING YOU.

You don’t make any.

I don’t recall that happening in recent memory. Anyway, there’s no need to engage Libya’s apologists on this issue.

Because I have a feeling that this is not the first official conduct of Libya which is inconsistent with the actions of a “friendly, secular, democratic” government. And it will be fun to watch the mental gymnastics of Libya’s apologists in the coming months and years.

Dude, please link and QUOTE the post where I said that “most anyone that doesn’t line up four square with israel is actually antisemetic.”

Failing that, please admit that this is NOT a quote from me and apologize.

Your choice, dude.

Lol, I think what you really mean is that I don’t make any points which agree with your dogma.

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Running away like a bitch is easy to do, when you’re wrong.

Oh wow, I totally forgot about this issue. What’s the update? Did the Palestinians end up asking for a vote in the UN? Was it blocked? Did they win/lose it?

Are you serious? I dismiss you because you call people who “disagree” with Israel anti-semetic when you actually said that anyone who “criticizes” israel is antisemetic and you think that I have distorted (or strawmanned) your position to dismiss you as irrelevant?

OK fine, I think we should dismiss you as irrelevant because you think criticism of Israel is anti-semetic.

No I mean that you are irrelevant because none of your positions are informed by reason. I don’t think that your positions are not supportable by reason, I do not think YOU support them with reason, you search for the reasons after the fact. When you dismiss critics of israel as anti-semites you don’t deserve to be engaged in debate.

Lol, seems you are unable to actually quote me despite your claim of having quoted me.

Goodbye, liar.

I thought that language sounded awfully familiar and that I’d heard it recently from somebody important. But it wasn’t a UN Ambassador.

Nope. It was-a da Pope*. And he’s not even democratically elected! Time to invade Vatican City.

*Actually the Mail has exaggerated the Pope’s specific statements - *quel surprise *- but it’s in the right ballpark.

I missed the part of the Libyan official’s comments where he made clear that he was talking about gay marriage and not gays in general. Would you mind quoting and linking it for me?

Also, are you seriously claiming that the Vatican has a “friendly, secular, democratic” government? A simple yes or no will do.

Oh, well as long as the Pope was only talking about gay marriage threatening humanity and not gays themselves, that’s entirely different. Clearly I must withdraw the point based on your stunning rebuttal.

No. I didn’t say Libya had one either yet, and neither did Brain Glutton. Did you have a point besides your little “gotcha ya”?

Agreed.

Withdrawal accepted.

Then I have no idea what your point was. My point was that the new Libya does not seem to be acting in a manner consistent with a “friendly, democratic, secular regime.”

If the Vatican is not acting in such a way either, it would not seem to contradict me, since by your own admission, the Vatican is not friendly + democratic + secular. But anyway, since you have withdrawn your point, it’s water under the bridge.

Good bye, liar.

You have succeeded in perpetuating the notion that Israel apologists are unreasonable, dishonest, and slightly unhinged.

Picking up on small semantic differences and declaring victory only gets you a victory in your own mind. Everyone else stands around and wonders whether you have a point you want to make.

As far as I know, only UNESCO has recognized a Palestinian state. The Palestinians abandoned the official statehood push (for now) when they discovered it would be voted down by the Security Council - without any use of the US veto. Thus, its pursuit would not have resulted in a symbolic victory for them.

But that’s simply the last I heard - could have been other developments more recently.

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Libya Arrests Suspected Christian Misssionaries

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/12/05/Libyan-assembly-votes-to-follow-Islamic-law.html

Why is that in this topic?

In fairness, it does go with his last non-sequitur post from February.

Maybe zillie is under the misapprehension that this is a catchall “damn those Muslims!” thread, much like the omnibus racist asshole thread to which he was semi-confined.

Damn Nostradamus why are you wasting your time on stupid messageboards when you should be out saving the world with your knowledge of the future?

Does Israel still exist? If so then it’s obviously their fault, for everything, obviously.