First Kenyan, ever.
Screw the Nobel … I’m going for the Heisman (I intend to earn it some day) Trophy!
I don’t think Obama supporters, of which I suppose I am one, should be happy about this. It is a manifestation of a particular European strain of easy, sheep-like hatred of Bush, about whom most of us actually know very little. It’s pretty obvious that the award is not for Obama, but for the American people, for electing a slightly less right-wing president. It’s patronising and stupid, in other words.
The Nobel Prize was already slightly ridiculous, and this hasn’t helped. I take it about as seriously as I take the Oscars.
Who says that the criticism is only about “left-wing American frothers”? Why isn’t about anyone, anywhere giving undue “worshipfulness”?
Now, now. Bush worked very hard to merit that hatred, especially considering he started from a position of worldwide support after 9/11.
In order to really dislike Bush, you’re saying, one needs to get to know him up close?
There is nothing easy about disliking Bush; one had to experience what he did to get to that point and that wasn’t easy at all. My impression is that Europeans don’t like Bush because he was completely dismissive of them and did a horrible job. A lot of Americans dislike him for the exact same reason, although they might know more of the details and be more concerned with domestic affairs.
This is such a clueless decision. I’m really surprised.
Al Gore won in 2007, after having served as US VP for eight years and doing a huge amount to “…build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.”
Yasser Arafat got the award in 1994, after more than 20 years as PLO leader, and six years after he caused the PLO to accept the UN resolution affirming Israel’s right to exist.
Rabin got the award in 1994 as well. He had succeded Golda Meir as Israeli PM in 1974. He served as Defense Minister and was responsible for the dialog with the PLO following the first Intifada in 1988.
I’m going to stop now and ask that you offer up some serious answers here instead of making me type complete paragraphs to refute names you’re seemingly offering up without much thought. Arafat and Rabin, to be sure, also have balancing acts of violence on their records, and you may be arguing that, balance they didn’t do enough to outweigh their violence to deserve the award. But that wasn’t the question. It was about anyone who had the same paucity of actual accomplishment that Obama has on the issue.
Rabin and Arafat had plenty of accomplishments. You might think the good wasn’t sufficiently outweighed by the bad, but reasonable people may disagree. I’m asking about simply the PRESENCE of accomplishments, as opposed to weighing the effects of different accomplishments.
Kind of a Team America type of thing. Lol!
To answer the OP: the sound is very similar to the noise you get when you stuff a firecracker up a frog’s ass, and set it off, with a little bit of a watermelon hitting the sidewalk from the third floor window.
You’re welcome.
Actually, yes. Particularly when you cannot refute it.
As is everything he has ever said and will say? Right, Dio?
It is more likely that you can not support your opinion.
That’s what they tell us we are. The commander in chief has yet to recall me or my unit. I don’t feel at peace, especially when I point guns at people when I am in their country.
He needs to bring us home. Earn the prize, right?
The OP and several of our more… kneejerk leftists have been going on about the tidal wave of outrage and hatred and anger that this was generating on the right.
Do we have, like, examples that this is the majority reaction? or has the bar on supporting stupid memes been lowered yet further as a form of affirmative action for our less mentally able board participants?
Admit it. You don’t even know what I originally posted. Kool-Aid?
Obama hasn’t put his life on the line to protest or oppose an unjust government or brought together groups to end a long-lasting conflict, or spent years or decades organizing a group that’s been working on some major global issue. I see no way to dispute any of that. His administration could achieve things on par with past honorees, but it hasn’t to this point. That wouldn’t be possible in eight months.
I don’t think that invalidates the award or makes it a bad choice, but it has to be acknowledged that even if you think Obama’s firmly on the right track, this is partly about the course he is charting and not about what’s been done along the way.
I offered you the two women above.
Paucity of accomplishments for Obama in comparison to them? The ladies got a lot of people to march. Hell, the Teabagger got more people.
Anyway:
So nothing much…just little things like nuclear proliferation. YMMV
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