Sorry. Mine was just a parenthetical digression with a tongue-in-cheek jab. The “moral” of the digression, if any, is that authentic documents may themselves contain little flaws. Perhaps it’s too-pure documents that are actually most suspicious! 
This is just the break the Republicans have been waiting for.
Damn, even that’s getting too old.
I thought this was a zombie thread till I saw the posting date. It sounds like the last pathetic whimper from a beaten horse that everyone thought was dead.
The birther movement showed that Republicans had nothing legitimate to criticize Obama with and had to resort to making up shit. Now they can’t even make it up anymore. They’re just recycling the old shit.
That was the break the Republicans thought they had.
Gotta love the username/post though…
The facetious point he was making was that with all the loons out there, the presence of LiquidPaper on her certificate would send them into a frothing rage that would scuttle her candidacy.
What’s the over/under that we’re still doing this after he’s out of office?
Can you tell me, with a cite, just how the British name for Kenya, differed from the current name? Apart from the pronunciation that is.
So birthers have gone from being all a bunch of Photoshop experts ™ to being Linguistic Historians.
Sure.
I don’t understand your comment. The OP is supposed to be a joke?
The OP isn’t a joke, I imagine. The person you responded to knows that the OP isn’t naively just asking and is actually pushing some kind of agenda, most likely. The phrase “just asking questions” is often used by conspiracy theory folks to put their ideas out there under the guise of “What? What? I mean, I’m just asking questions!” mock outrage when challenged. (Look up JAQing as an internet meme).
So, the person you responded was already casting the same aspersions on the OP as you were, by including that phrase.
It wouldn’t even stop if video of Obama’s birth in Hawaii showed up, I’ve seen birthers claim Obama was somehow “replaced” during his childhood in Indonesia.
It never, ever stops.
Ignorance fought! I really must do better to keep up, sometimes. :smack:
That’s such a cool fact that I went to look at My First Stamp Album. That’s in Caps because that was the literal name of the album. From Minkus Publications, copyright 1956. (I am NOT a hoarder. I just don’t throw anything out. There’s a difference. twitch, twitch.)
And there it is, listed in the British Commonwealth section. Several stamps with images of royal heads and Kenya Uganda Tanganyika listed on them.
Man, the world looks a lot different when viewed through the history of stamps. Ken Jennings might not recognize all the names in here.
And somehow it makes it even more incredible that anyone from Kenya under any name would be fudging the future 50 years down the line - unless actual time travelers were involved.
The answer to the OP’s question is that the matter is moot. Even if a formal investigation started today, I don’t think anything could be done in just three years. [sigh] Conspiracies with more than two or three people are very difficult to pull off … once we’re into ten’s of people, someone will get a book deal and cash in. May not be human nature but it’s certainly the nature of Americans.
Bullshit. The issue here is not a lack of time or resources. You could have a budget of billions of dollars and decades of time to investigate but you still wouldn’t find any conspiracy in the end. Because there is no conspiracy to be found.
Not JAQing off?
Michael Crichton’s State of Fear is 250+ pages of JAQing while denying that he has any stake in the issue at all. Closest published look we ever got to what a strange, paranoid twitch he was.
It’s not really your fault.
There are people deliberately producing misinformation in order to fuel this nonexistent debate. It’s a depressing fact that such efforts are more than minimally successful.
Of course it wouldn’t! While videotape was demonstrated in 1953 and the first practical broadcast quality tapes came out in 1958, no one would have been using it to record births in 1961. While 16 mm film was used for ‘home movies’, it wasn’t the format most families who engaged in the hobby would have used. Super-8 mm film didn’t come out until 1965, so any ‘home movies’ of the birth would have been on regular 8 mm film shot on a spring-motor camera.
Video? Obviously fake! They didn’t have it back then! Even if someone copied 8 mm film onto videotape, the spring motors on the 8 mm cameras at the time only ran for 25 seconds. Plenty of opportunity to pull the ol’ Switcheroo while the camera is being rewound!
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I thought that was Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!
I think the point was that even if there were anything to find, it still wouldn’t be able to be brought to a meaningful conclusion in the time remaining. It’d have to bubble up through the press, the popular awareness, the Congress, the courts, the Supreme Court would probably have to rule more than once, then there’d be the House impeachment hearings, the actual impeachment…
And would 2/3 of the Senate vote to convict, or would enough of them just say that Obama ran in good faith, believed himself to be a citizen, no objections were raised during the campaign (by any state or federal elections official, that is) and the status quo is constitutionally supportable.
That’s why watchwolf49 said it was moot. No “bullshit” to it.
ETA: one might disagree with any or all of this, but something one disagrees with and “bullshit” are not quite the same thing.
I agree that there is a distinction but I still feel bullshit is the applicable term here. When somebody says the matter is moot because there isn’t enough time to complete the investigation, I feel they are trying to create the impression the allegations are true and could be proven if more time was available.