I half-ass paid attention, but what I got was Mike Zullo of Maricopa County saying, “I’m an Obama supporter, I voted for him twice. Hurt the President of the United States. There’s nothing wrong with it. Hays’ conclusion is fraudulently manufactured. Nail in the coffin. Line up.”
Maybe I should have paid more attention?
If the Cheeto-Colored Cretin switches his position on this issue again, with the OP flip-flop to match, like the American Communist Party attitude toward Nazi Germany when Hitler allied with Stalin and then backstabbed him?
That’s the good thing about YouTube. They investigate EVERY video posted for truth and accuracy. Why yesterday, I posted a YouTube video proving Her Majesty, the beloved Queen of England, was a shape shifting reptilian life form from another world. It even showed before and after pictures of her as she shed her humanoid form and became a lizard. I was amazed.
Anyone want to take odds on the OP never ever posting again?
TomMaker, pointing to a bad YouTube creation as an argument, (particularly when “backed up” by nonsense claims such as that the Mainstream Media never examined the issue), is not a serious debate.
Please provide a summary of the points claimed by the video, (preferably backed by actual evidence), or I will have to close this thread.
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I was surprised to find three posts. But, upon further review, two of them were the same nonsense and one of them different nonsense.
Tom, put yourself in the shoes of a person reading your posts for the first time. Who are you? What are your qualifications that allow you to state with certainty that Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was somehow faked? What are your responses to the points raised here in rebuttal of this notion? In particular, why do you think Mr. Trump, one of the loudest promoters of birtherism, would first drop his claims about Obama, then pick them up again? How convincing do you think you are to someone if you cannot be bothered to check your spelling and punctuation before posting? Do you believe that three exclamation points indicates that a baseless assertion somehow carries more weight than with only one exclamation point?
I thought the errors were the most convincing aspect of his post! Wouldn’t the Russians have run a spell-checker if it came from them?
His point about nobody debating this issue does seem to be accurate, though.
HE isn’t even interested in a debate!
Oh, he’s interested. He just doesn’t have any evidence.
Well, yeah, but would they remember to change the language setting?
Has anyone had the stomach to watch the video to see if there were indeed 12 points offered as evidence?
Is that one of those “50 Shades of Grey” knockoffs?
Please don’t close this thread.
It is more entertaining than cable TV.
Obama’s birth certificate was freshly generated by the local government in Hawaii in response to President Obama’s request.
It can’t be forged by definition - it was freshly printed. The point to question, if you were a birther, would be the official government records that this certificate was generated from. Those could theoretically have been messed with - though as a poster upstream points out, there were other documents from that era, like the notice in his hometown paper, that would have been nearly impossible to fake as well.
As near as I can tell, all 12 points were that the person did not understand how typewriters work.
I suppose the 12 points start at the :27 second mark, and ends about 35 seconds later, going at a rapid fire pace, the video claims numbers have been changed, but the screen shot is so far out on a good portion of it, they don’t allow you to see much of it. So impossible to make out. I’m guessing what discrepancies they might be seeing are from copies that could vary slightly, but just not arrive at the conclusions they draw.
This Reed Hayes that is mentioned at the 2:10 mark, claim he is apart of what sounds like maybe, Reed Hyde & White, but not sure, it’s too garbled, and came up empty on search engines. It’s as if, they did that on purpose, but they wouldn’t have done that, right Tom?
https://www…com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM
this vid shows 9 points of forgery
by Joe Arapio investigation
I belive its not real for sure
ITS FAKE!!
Mod Note: Link Broken to try to create a teaching moment.
Stop posting Youtube videos and start posting arguments. Nobody is going to sit through a one hour video to see something any intelligent person should be able to sum up in a few paragraphs.
Here’s a little life lesson for you; if a person spends over an hour to state a simple fact, they’re full of shit.
It’s difficult to keep up with all of this fancy new technology, so I think some slack would be in order. Not everyone is tech savvy and knows how typewriters work or how to use them properly.