Obama's speech

The Youtube comments have been getting wittier lately, or maybe it’s the nature of the political clips. Comment under Pat Buchanan’s gushing over Obama’s speech:

"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood. "

I have been a nominal Obama supporter. After watching that speech, my only comment was “Wow.” Today, I just keep thinking that this guy has to get elected.

I really hope he does get elected. We’ve got to get out there and get the vote out for those who are fence sitters.

There was a lot of the usual phrases thrown about. What was different, og help me, is that for the first time ever I actually believe that he will make good on his word. Maybe not every point, and every penny, but I have faith in him that he will TRY. He has my vote, and he better not let me down.

I find it stunning that this race is as tight as it is. IMO BO should be on track to win by a landslide.

Al Gore touched on this in his speech. There are a lot of people afraid to change the status quo.

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He may have just pushed me off that fence. I can’t wait to see how McCain responds.

I’m happy to hear that, every person who decides to vote for Obama instead of the status quo is one more person who wishes to see exactly what Obama can do in the Oval Office. He’s not going to ef it up as bad as Bush, most will agree with that…and some - including myself - say that he will deliver on a lot of what he is promising. If he even gives us 30% of what he says he wants to I’ll be happy. If we can get 80% closer to being less dependant on foreign oil I will be happy.

Like a couple of other posters, I thought it was quite a good speech, but not up to the lump-in-the-throat greatness of the race speech. But, then, that’s a pretty high standard. I didn’t see all the speeches, but the best one I saw was Bill Clinton’s. That was masterful.

Anyway, as my location shows, I’m an Obama supporter, so he’s got my vote unless tape of him eating babies shows up. Still, I would have liked a bit more detail on how he’s going to pay for some of his initiatives. The “close loopholes” and so on was just a little boilerplate. I guess I’m not going to get whitepaper-level detail in a speech, but I was just hoping for a little more meat.

Still a good speech. And it’s always nice to watch history being made.

I have to say that I was impressed with his speech last night. I am all too cynical and leery of people that spout platitudes that sound nice but have little bearing in reality.

Obama was passionate and clear about his vision for our country and it was moving. I know these acceptance speeches are generally a “rah-rah for our guy” kind of spectacle, but Obama rose above the occaision with his speech.

Of course, as you say, it can’t be any worse than Bush…can it?

I thought about the Biden thing also. It would have been smarter to talk about who wants change and who doesn’t, regardless of time in the Senate. I think he spelled out what he was going to do to combat the critics that say he’s all good speech and no substance, but I don’t think that works when everything sounds like every other campaign promise we’ve ever heard. I appreciated the fact that he said “it’s not about me, it’s about you” and the fact that he said these changes would require something of the average citizen and mentioned personal responsibility. I think he might have played that a little more and the “what I’m going to do” a little less. I think the DNC would be an appropriate place for a leader to reach out to the moderates and GOP members who are disgusted with Bush. He might have stressed working together and decent honest debate to truly solve problems, having faith in the country and the democratic process put in place by the founders, rather than cheap shots and personal smears. I did like his line that they want to make the campaign about small things.
Honestly, I’m an Obama supporter but in these last three months he and his campaign have begun to look and sound like every other campaign. I understand and I still support him but I’m a bit disappointed. I wish they had been more courageous and dared to keep running a different kind of campaign.
I’d appreciate a bit more honest talk to citizens like his amazing speech on racism and less Hip Hip Hooray.
I’d give it a B+ maybe an A-. Let’s watch the RNC and then grade on a curve. Maybe it’s an A+ by comparison.

btw did anyone see McCain’s congratulatory ad? Admit it. Sorta classy. Not as classy as repudiating all the bullshit smears would be, but not bad.

Yeah, I heard him use “fat cat” recently and groaned. Please don’t. It’s so redundant. I’d like to hear a democrat say he acknowledges the interdependence of labor and business. If the business doesn’t succeed then jobs go away. We need work together where we can find a balance so that Wall Street succeeds and the workers needs are being met. Lobbyists and buying legislation that boosts profits at the expense of working class is unacceptable. We want entrepreneurs and visionaries to reap their deserved rewards. We don’t want the con men like Enron.

There were a couple of lines that stood out as clever barbs against McCain or good quips about Obama’s plans - the latter of which is important because it may be hard for people to get an idea of how his proposals will help them. But mostly, this speech was well suited to the occasion because he turned down the poetry and emphasized that he is a regular person, which is important. He’s going to have to keep doing that. I guess you could say Obama has long since locked in people who want to believe, but now he’s got to go after people who are more reluctant to accept the kind of sweeping ideas he’s been offering. I think he targeted those people very well yesterday and did a good job talking about his family and his regular guy characteristics: he mentioned his mother and what she did, and his grandmother, but none of the usual international stuff about his family or his father. This one won’t be remembered for its rhetoric, but he did some smart things here.

But the RNC may be delayed because of a storm. Isn’t that some beautiful irony there. Fuck you Focus on the Fucktards.

I’d agree with that. I was comparing it to his other speeches. I was hoping they’d play the “Yes We Can” music video. That still moves me.

You stole my post :slight_smile:

In an effort to contribute something else, though, let me say that I really enjoyed the part where Obama took McCain to task for questioning his patriotism. It was very direct and forceful. It felt to me like he was looking McCain in the eye and saying Don’t question my patriotism, you son of a bitch. Very well done, IMO.

Seconded. I was glad to see Obama flash a little teeth and fire there. He’s been taking the high road for so long, he was in danger of being seen as wimpy. Good for him.

But Obama hasn’t been making personal smears. He’s been making policy smears. He said himself at least twice last night that John McCain cares about the American people. He never mentioned the seven houses. He just said that McCain doesn’t understand the economy, something that McCain has already made pretty clear for himself, and pointed out what McCain’s chief advisor (who has returned to McCain’s side and wrote McCain’s economic policy) said and what McCain said himself.

It’s ridiculous to suggest that no politician can ever mention his or her opponent’s policies or positions to compare or contrast with his or her own.