Aaaand that’s where I stopped reading. I now agree with rap master Euphonious P.
But seriously, dude, Newt Gingrich? This is the sort of thing that convinces me your sort is going to nominate another palooka for Obama to bitch slap come 2012. Good for the country, so… yay you guys.
You’re confusing him with the noted scientific researcher who discovered Cole’s Law.
Wasn’t that research done at the Mayo Clinic?
Aaaaand that’s where I stopped reading. Obama isn’t the world’s greatest speaker/golfer/pick-a-skill. Your argument amounts to hero worship. And if you want to stoop to Euphonious’s level then you have diminished yourself for the effort.
Seriously, what can I do to ensure that Republicans nominate Gingrich?
We could all get T-shirts and buttons “Dopers for Newt!”. If that doesn’t put him over the top…
Wow, you really can’t stand the idea that Obama is a good orator but not the world’s greatest. I wasn’t aware the Gingrich was running but knock your socks off. Given Obama’s current ratings I wouldn’t be bringing up elections right now.
Even phrased as a hypothetical, this is not kosher in Great Debates. Please don’t do it again.
I would, and I will. Republicans would eat a spider for Obama’s approval ratings:
Pretending that Obama is not the 800 pound gorilla in the 2012 election is whistling past the graveyard.
Move the goalposts much? I think the arguments you’ve been making in this thread have gone from:
I’m sorry that your political views render you incapable of rational analysis.
The only reason I don’t rank President Obama higher as an orator is because he has not given a speech as historically significant as some of his predecessors as of yet.
A great speech is as much a product of the moment as the speaker, and President Obama hasn’t faced a Pearl Harbor yet. I hope he never does.
I don’t think he’s given one as President. I think his “More Perfect Union” speech during the campaign was a watershed in race relations
No change in goal post and I picked a politician for an apples to apples comparison. Gingrich has always had this skill. As far as extemporaneous Q&A I don’t see where a President does it any less than a retired Senator. A President can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a microphone.
Magiver, it seems to be a function of the fact that some cannot admit any possible flaw in the Blessed and Most Perfect One.
I keep waiting for someone to say "Obama is a terrific dancer. Not many people know that.
Obama could paint a whole apartment in one afternoon! Two coats!"
Regards,
Shodan
Obama doesn’t actually read books. He just looks at them and understands them perfectly.
Yes, that must be it. Any other strawmen you’d like to prop up?
See post 151.
Already saw it. As well as in other posts and threads - projection is not uncommon hereabouts.
Regards,
Shodan
Post 151 was followed by post 153 which goes back to Shodan’s observation. Accrediting any speech of Obama as socially transcending is an example of aggrandized hero worship. The hero worship was obvious during the election with Obama supporters incorporating his name into their thread locations like a bunch of school girls drawing hearts on their notebooks. Joanie loves Berry 4-ever.
While that kind of excitement happens from time to time in an election it’s just sad to see it 2 years into an administration that was bitch-slapped in the mid-term election. Considering he tossed his liberal promises such as shutting down Gitmo or pulling out of Iraq earlier I would think the knee-jerk defense of everything he does would dampen a bit. That is one strong glass of kool-Aid.
He’s a politician. Get over it.