Obese Woman Ruins Theatre

The BBQ Pit
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If everyone was like you this would be a great, great world.

As a just plain stocky guy (lifting the armrests or not, my shoulders are going to touch yours unless I squinch myself up, which I do.) who used to be fat, I’m not offended by the pitting of rude people, even if their rudeness is aided and abetted by the fact they’re fat. If it was the fat qua fat being pitted it’d be one thing, but there’s nothing that says “asshole” like the idea that having a certain body type gives you free reign to invade other people’s personal space.

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For a truly awful airplane story, go here (snopes)

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I can’t help but concur, as a prior fat person who was unhappy with myself (75lbs lost, and I’ve still got a lot to drop before I’m “happy” as opposed to “not depressed”)–I’m very, very skeptical about the idea that some people just can’t drop weight. Granted, it’s not easy, and it’s really terribly difficult for some people (my mother in law just found a diet that works for her after ten years of searching, but has dropped 50lbs in three months under medical supervision) but I refuse to believe that some people are just going to be fat. At the basis of it, it’s a lifestyle choice–it’s an unfair one, because some people have the predisposition to be fat (and I’m one of 'em, I gain 5lbs a week if I stop paying attention to my diet and just eat what I feel like), but it’s not un-fixable.

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Whether the person is big because of lifestyle or genetics or whatever makes no difference to me.

If a person needs more space than one seat, they need to buy more than one seat. Whether it’s because they like food and simply don’t want to stop eating, or because they were born with three extra arms, I fail to see the difference.

It’s amazingly rude to knowingly buy only one seat and spill over into another person’s seat. The reasons for needing the extra space, and whether they are “voluntary” or not are completely inconsequential.

I’m a fat guy, and I’m only getting fatter. I may be one of these people who needs more than one seat, soon. I absolutely cannot imagine knowingly putting myself in a situation where I’m going to have to be in a stranger’s personal space. If that means buying an extra seat, or driving (or taking a ship) instead of flying, that’s what I’m going to have to do.

Surely I, the fat person, am not going to be comfortable either, jammed into a seat that’s too small and spilling into some stranger’s lap?

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I definitely plan to buy two seats next time I fly as I am just over the borderline of fitting in one seat and I am uncomfortable, not to mention worried about encroaching on someone else, depending on the seats. My only concern now is how to keep the other person out of the extra seat I paid for, since it’s mine, all mine!!

There is a theatre in town where the seats are definitely too small for me. I would buy two seats only the armrests don’t raise up so it wouldn’t help any. I don’t plan to go there but if they have something irresistible, I guess I would stand in the back.

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I just can’t help but think that somebody like John Waters would turn this into a movie where one of the parts is a guy who sits next next to obese people and develops a fat arm fetish.

“Stewardess, this man is sucking on my arm!”

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Why do we show pity for people who are greedy for food but look down on people who are greedy for drugs or money?

We all happily hate Ken Lay for being greedy for money, nobody says they feel sorry for him.

We wouldn’t look at it as ok if someone was sitting their shooting up next to us at the theater, so why should we care about the equal rights of a food junkie inconveniencing us by satisfying their fix?

I certainly have sympathy for anyone that’s ruled by their addiction, but in the end their addiction isn’t my problem, because there is nothing that I could do about it even if I wanted to. Have you ever tried helping someone with an addiction, who likes being addicted to whatever it is they are addicted to? You can’t do shit about it. So I don’t feel pity for them at all. They put themselves in their predicament. Sympathy sure. I can feel for them, but that doesn’t justify them inconveniencing others by their addiction.

We tolerate fat people as compared to other addicts because they are more of a nuisance than a problem, but it’s their fault that they are fat. Maybe they should try some Yoga, or put down the ice cream once in a while. Maybe WALK to the 10 blocks to the 7-11 instead of drive. I don’t think this type of conspicuous consumption deserves pity. Most Americans consume FAR MORE than they need, whether it’s food, drugs, alcohol, toys, gasoline whatever, and it’s disgusting behavior no matter what the end result is.

To all the obese people in this thread. You put yourself where you are. Don’t expect me to feel sorry for you. I know some of you have a medical condition and for you, I do feel sorry, but I think that there are a lot more fat people than there are people with an overactive thyroid. If you take up more than one seat in a public space, then you are FUCKING FAT, and it’s not my responsibility to tolerate you, anymore than it is your responsibility to me to stop eating. If you take the responsibility to stop eating and start excercising, I will be more supportive of you. I am tired of people acting like this is a damn equal rights issue, as though Fat people are being oppressed everywhere.

If you are consuming more than your fair share of the tribes resources, you are going to get disrespected by the tribe, it’s that simple.

Don’t be a goddamned glutton, and I’ll have more respect. However, I am not in the habit of being mean to anyone for their personal proclivities, so don’t worry about that, but that doesn’t mean I have to respect your life choices. Go to a fucking shrink figure out whatever void it is you are trying to fill with fried chicken, and fill it with what it needs. Round peg, square hole, it’s not Fried Chicken that you need, it’s something else.

Erek

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Isn’t it less work to just lose a little weight than it is to earn double the money for things? I don’t understand that. You must make a lot of money if you can afford two plane tickets, and two seats every time you go see a movie. To me it would seem like you could spend a couple hours a week working out, and then you’d have to work less to pay for you extra usage. Don’t get me wrong, I have gained weight and I know how much harder it is to have physical energy when you are heavier, but eventually it gets easier.

Erek

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You do know that not all fat people are chronic over-eaters, right?

Dumbass.

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You do know that I addressed that point in my post right?

Dumbass.

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Yeah, I read your post, dumbass, and you made some passing remark to the fact that some people might have medical problems, dumbass, but you certainly acted like it was some freak anomaly.

And there are other reasons besides over-eating and thyroid issues one may be fat, but that’s besides the point. We don’t need your pity.

So, listen, I ain’t getting into this debate because it’s pointless. People believe what they want to believe, and people want to believe fat people are fat because they are horrible people who should stay at home and not inconvenience other, better people.

I don’t know why I bother to read threads like this, it just makes me mad. But I do know I’d rather be a fatass than a dumbass.

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mswas doesn’t live on the same plane of reality as the rest of us. He resides on a higher metaphysical plane where through his philosphical contemplations he sees and knows all.

Well, until you confront him with the facts.

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I’ve stated two ways in which I am keeping you from being made uncomfortable by my personal proclivities, as you asked, and that’s not good enough? If I’ve made it so that I can do what I want, and it doesn’t impact you, do your part and mind your own fucking business. Or could it be that you would still look and have something to say about the mere existence of fat people?

So his seat on that plane is completely unobstructed?

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You are a fashion skeptic my friend. When you confront me with facts that are RELEVANT to the discussion at hand. We’ll talk. Until now, you’ve mostly been throwing irrelevant trivia at me. I know it’s hard to understand me sometimes, but in this particular case the facts are on my side.

I hope those of you in the fact based community will join us over here in the ‘reading comprehension’ community, and realize that I already addressed liberty897348789q247’s point.

Oooh diss, the fashion skeptics once again lose out by not following the rules they expect others to live by! :rolleyes:

Do you or do you not agree that it is a ‘FACT’ that I copy and pasted that quote from my post above, and didn’t just make it up for my purposes now?

Maybe you need to hire a ‘fact’ checker, because you’re not so good at it yourself. Your idea of a cite is to make some generalization about me, and then reference like 75 posts that I made.

Here’s a hint for you, if you want to continue to present ‘facts’. precision helps when formulating your cites. Rather than just giving us a broad example of what we should read, why don’t you go in and find a particular example that you want to choose from an overall thread. Then you can discuss that particular example, or you can be precise and point out your issue with a few of them, but until then just linking us to 75 posts doesn’t count as confronting someone with the ‘facts’.

It might behoove you to examine your own behavior, by looking inward and seeing where your own methodology is flawed. If you need study guides, you can read how I respond to SentientMeat, CitizenBob or Left Hand of Dorkness in Great Debates, as opposed to idiots like you, Der Trihs or GIGObuster. Then again, looking inward is probably not going to work for you, as you can’t possibly find the truth esoterically(Looking inward). You can only find the truth by exoterically(looking outward).

It’s one thing to tell me my communication skills are off. That’s fine, I’ll try to find some other way to communicate. But confronting me with facts is only useful if you can understand what I’m talking about. An ability you have yet to present me with sufficient evidence of. Context my friend, context is your friend.

Erek

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I am not asking you to justify your existance to me. I am asking you a genuine question about the way you are choosing to operate. For me it is harder to have the money to buy two plane tickets every time I want to go somewhere than it is for me to excercise a little bit. If you don’t want to answer me that’s fine. Trust me, the existance of fat people doesn’t really enter into my consciousness that often. I don’t go around thinking “Boy those fat people they really tick me off.” I was just genuinely interested in your motivations for things. It was a personal question though, and “None of your business” is an acceptable response.

Think of it as me trying to fight my own ignorance on the motivations of fat people. I’m human, I have my own obsessions, they are different from yours, I’m not trying to create some kind of arbitrary sense of valuation of one human over another.

I didn’t say I hated fat people anywhere. I said I don’t “PITY” fat people, as many of them came by their condition through their own choices. If it’s by a medical condition, well that’s different, as I have said.

Erek

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Hey, Mr. Reading-Comprehension, mswas, did you see my post #131 where I quote you? Guess not. Have fun arguing with yourself.

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OK, I trust you. I only fly about once a year so I can afford a double ticket. I haven’t bought one this way but the last time I flew I was uncomfortable enough that I decided next time that’s what I’ll do. It’s a one-time hit versus the very uncomfortable daily decision to exercise or eat more healthfully. I live in a small town so movies are rarely sold out so I can stretch out in the one seat I buy.

I have to make some concessions to being too big or heavy for certain things but this is infrequent enough that it doesn’t outweigh what would be the every moment decision to exercise and eat more healthfully. I do think almost all the time about the disdain I assume most people have for me but then I also think, I’m just a person, and isn’t it interesting all the different shapes and sizes people come in, and why is one better than another.

I decided to stop beating myself up about the fact that I hate to exercise and just go with the fact that that’s who I am. Food is a treat for me and just happens to be one that produces results that are considered unattractive or negative to society, rather than other things which may hurt in other ways but leave the person looking fine.

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Hey dipshit, it was a sarcastic comment, not an actual discussion.

Dude, if you’re going to drag up that old pit thread, I layed out the specific posts where you attempted to prove that somehow pheromones relayed our genetic composition and the only cite you provided refuted your arguement. I’ve never once seen you come up with a legitimate cite that had to do with what the arguement was about.

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Well this thread turned out pretty much as expected.

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Uh… so does anyone think I should get a refund or something?

I keed! I keed!