Observations of the 3rd Democratic Debate

Yes, sadly.:frowning:
Like I said- sure ban the sale and import of ‘assault weapons’, but confiscation? Wow. :eek:

Burglars are well known for avoiding house where the owner is known to be armed.

Now, if they have solid info they are out of town, then…

Oh, that would have been most unwise. His dogs weren’t the timid type. Good guy though, as a neighbor. Ran a haunted house in his garage one year on Halloween.

Ha, just realized that might sound weird but he did and it was sweet. Lots of families brought their kids. He went all out.

It’s true that conservatives are freaking out over what Beto said about guns at the debates. I’m seeing it on the local news here. But I think this could actually be very good for his campaign. If the right and Fox News is constantly going apeshit over him, that might tend to make Democrats like him and support him more.

Worked for Trump.

A guy in my neighborhood had his appliances, including the outside A/C compressor stolen when he was away.

“Well known” generally translates to “here’s something I’m pulling out what came out from my colonoscopy prep”.

The argument can be made that guns are an item desirable to steal. More evidence to it. Why I Want Crooks to Know That My House Is a Gun-Free Zone

Hire burglars to do the actual confiscation as part of their “community service”. Win/win.

But seriously doesn’t “confiscation” mean to take without compensation? If so, the term wouldn’t apply to buy backs.

Oh they are- if they know the owner isnt home.

“That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” said Walter T. Shaw, 65, a former burglar and jewel thief who the FBI blames for more than 3,000 break-ins that netted some $70 million in the 1960s and 1970s. “Having a list of who has a gun is like gold - why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?

It is worth noting that the Dems haven’t nominated a Male WASP for the top spot in twenty years.

Al gore ran in 2000.

I need to track down cites, and I don’t have the time, but I recall a survey of burglars/thieves/robbers done a short time ago, that tried to determine what made a location an attractive location to practice their trade. Dogs were a deterrent, though not a great one. If the thief wanted the items bad enough, he’d (vast majority were male) either ignore the dog—as most would just bark and not attack—or kill it. Not hard to do for most household dogs. Maybe you have a Fila, or a Schutzhund trained K9.

Anyway, another thing that made the location attractive was easily fenceable items. Drugs were valuable, but guns were 2nd most prized, even over jewels or electronics.

Finally, most successful thieves timed their approach to when the occupants were away. Thefts were rare where the thief was indifferent to the presence of a homeowner.

Anyway, I think we’ll differ on whether such a homeowner’s sign is a deterrent or attraction, though I welcome reading research that can help settle the question one way or the other.

Confiscation means to take from someone who did not want to relinquish said property. It can be either compensated, as is the case for eminent domain condemnation, or uncompensated, as is the case of contraband, but both are confiscations. Were owners of narcotics compensated for their seizure when the first controlled substances acts were passed?

A mandatory buy-back is a confiscation, period.

Why is that worth noting?

I strongly disagree with you guys. Most Americans favor stricter gun control. We need to nominate a candidate who’ll actually tackle this issue. Beto’s response earned him a lot of respect in my book.

I’ll match your quote anecdote with this one We asked 86 burglars how they broke into homes | ktvb.com

FWIW the 9/6 NPR On The Media last bit with Lois Beckett On the Media : NPR was great.

Actual evidence based gun violence prevention would not focus on assault weapons or school shootings. Kids are in fact safer in schools than in their homes.

It’s a good discussion.

I’ll guess ‘twenty’ was a typo for ‘sixteen.’ Since the R’s almost won with a Mormon in 2012, and one front-runner today is nominally a Jew, I don’t think ‘Catholic’ raises eyebrows anymore.

(John Kerry’s grandfather Frederick Kerry was born Fritz Kohn, a Jew, and married a woman from Budapest: is that why he’s not “AS” (Anglo-Saxon)?)

And John Kerry in 2004. Unless you strictly define WASP as “Protestant.” In which case you have to also agree that Episcopalians aren’t WASPs, either.

Yes, exactly 20 years before this election. And no, Catholics are not WASPs. And yes, Episcopalians are.