Obtaining a replacement Social Security card for a toddler

This is the kind of thing you’d expect to be easily researched on one of the U.S. government’s own websites, but I’ve had no luck turning anything up that I could understand. So I throw the question to the Dope.

I took my 3-year-old daughter’s birth cerificate to our local Social Security office to obtain a replacement card for her. When I arrived, I see a sign on the wall that says:

For minor children, a birth certificate is not proof of identity. Please bring in a medical bill listing either your child’s birthdate or SSN.

:confused:

OK, then. I’ll get a copy of one of her bills from her pediatrician. But meanwhile:

  1. Has anyone here had to obtain a replacement SS card for a small child in the last few years (post-Patriot-Act)? What did you have to do?

  2. If anyone here can navigate the dot-gov sites better than I can and find out what I need to bring with me to get a replacement card for a small child, I’d be much obliged.

Also: since when has a birth certificate gotten such little respect as a document? Are fake ones that common these days?

This is the PDF form to get a SS card. It claims a birth cert. is proof of age but not identity and does suggest a medical record for a minor child. (see the “Identity” section on page 3.)

It seems like a medical record would be easier to fake than a birth cert., but what do I know?

Thanks, Velma. I printed this exact form out the other day. Where I got confused was in the distinction between proof of age and proof of identity. This SS-5 PDF does come out and say “we need a birth certificate”. That’s what I zeroed in on … I figured that since I had the BC, all else would fall into place.

As for medical records … well, I’ve got some handwritten immunization records from the pediatrician with her birthdate on them. For all they know, I could have filled it out :confused:

The way I read it, they want proof of age (birth cert. is ok here) and seperate proof of identity (preferably something with a photo, but in the case of a toddler, they accept a medical record with a birthdate on it since toddlers don’t have photo I.D. ) It does state that it must be a medical record maintained by the medical office, so you might want to bring a few pieces along if you can, in case they question one of them - it states that they may accept medical records so I would get as much as you can to take along.

Note that you also have to show proof or your relationship to the child (birth cert. ok here) and proof of your own identity, so you need your own birth cert / gov. photo I.D., or better, a passport as well.

Do you have a fingerprint or footprint chart when the child was born?

Perhaps when you finally obtain the replacement card, you should put your electric bill into the child’s name. That way if you ever need to replace the card again, you’ll meet the letter of the law with a utility bill as proof of identity. As much as I joke in this last comment, it does have some validity to it.

[hijack]Why does a three-year-old need a Social Security card at all?[/hijack]

You rarely need the actual card, but he needs the number if they want to get health insurance for him or open a bank account in his name.

Also to claim the child as a dependent on your tax return.

She turns 4 in two months, and will be enrolling into public Pre-K classes this fall. The local school system wants various forms of ID submitted to them by the end of this month … one of them being her actual Social Security card.

I already have her SSN (I’m looking to get a replacement card for her) – the school wants to see the actual card :shrug:

OK. I understand. I was just wondering because I shredded mine years ago and haven’t found a need for it yet.

While we’re here … how come a birth certificate alone isn’t good enough to vouch for a small child?

Another question, if I can throw another one in here after the original has been answered: I’ve found that I won’t be able to wait in the Social Security office all day to handle this. I have the option of mailing it … but I was hoping doing it in person would be quicker (I remember walking in w/o a SS card and then walking out with one sometime in the 80s – no real wait). Does anyone know about how long it all takes to come in by mail these days?

Ah the memories … I’m sorry I can’t help with your problem, but I can commiserate. My husband and I are American, but were living in Mozambique when I was pregnant, so my son was born in South Africa.

Our plan was to give our son my last name. Obnoxiously enough, South Africa has (or at least they did) a law that says “If the dad is listed on the birth certificate, the child’s last name is to be the same as the dad’s.” End of story. No amount of arguing or pleading moved the relevant SA bureaucrats - and they could care less that we weren’t even South African citizens! So our son’s birth certificate had the “wrong” last name, thanks to the forward-thinking South African government.

I then had to research how to make legal name changes, and it turns out that for Americans, if you want to change your child’s name you are supposed to do it through the state you live in. Obviously that wasn’t an option, since we didn’t reside in any US state, so I phoned the US State Department at my earliest opportunity, thinking “they can’t help me, but I’ll try.”

To my initially pleasant surprise, they were completely unfazed by my request to change a name while living abroad – turns out it happens all the time, thanks to marriage/divorce/adoption. So I was quickly put in touch with the correct department, where the fine gentleman there told me I could not change my son’s name because my reason was not “conventional.” (I guess if South Africa had forced us to give our son my name and we wanted him to have my husband’s, THAT would have been conventional, but since we wanted him to have his mother’s last name, Uncle Sam decided we weren’t entitled to help.) This was in 1998, by the way – not 1955 or anything.

Eventually, we paid an attorney to make the (somewhat specious) argument to a judge in New Hampshire, where my parents lived, that we were actually NH residents and therefore the NH court could take action and change our son’s name. We had to show up in court and everything! But, the judge was really nice (he clearly couldn’t believe that the system was so defective that all of us were having to take time with this rigamarole) and we left the courthouse with several notarized copies changing our son’s name.

Now we get to the Social Security number. He had gotten one at birth (I thought kids had to, these days … certainly when we registered him as a foreign birth at the US Embassy in South Africa, they wanted SS paperwork at the same time), but of course, his social security number was based on his original birth certificate, which did not have the name we wanted.

Once we finally had our son’s legal name straightened out, it took about A YEAR to get his SS records changed to reflect his proper name. I have never dealt with such an intransigent, slow, useless bureaucracy that managed to lose paperwork, claim I’d never sent it, invent new forms along the way that suddenly I had to fill out anew, etc. etc.

So, all my sympathies to anyone dealing with this stuff. Have fun.

Yipes! It shouldn’t be as bad as all that, though – we’ve gotten a SS card once for her already. We just need a replacement card.

I was required to bring in my original card as part of a background check for my current employer. They could do the check with just the number, but the HR person actually had to see the card herself during my check-in. I’m guessing it had to do with proving I was who I said I was. They also used it as part of the process of proving I was legal to work in the US, but they would have accepted other documents for that (e.g., a passport.) Up until then I don’t think I’ve ever needed it, though. In fact, I only had one with my maiden name on it for about 15 years after I was married. (It was also orange and a bit worse for wear after a trip through the washer.)