Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

Saw Terminator 2 for the first time ages (it’s on Netflix) and it only just occured to me that Cyberdyne joins the list “evil but spectacular dumb and pointless” megacorps in movies. I mean they knew what happened in the firsr film, and Sarah Conner’s account that Cyberdyne would bring about the nuclear apocalypse and the machine attempt to wipe out mankind.

Given all that and the evidence to back her up, they decide to… go ahead and cause the apocalypse anyway. We know they must believe her, or why would they cover it up and take the terminator parts?

What is their motivation for ignoring the obvious evidence that they are wiping out mankind? I mean the execs at Cyberdyne are in fact human beings, even the most cynical Exxon exec would baulk at actions that will, in all likelihood wipe out mankind (and the execs themselves) on a specific day in 1997.

Do we know they knew that? Dyson certainly seemed surprised. I certainly don’t think we know for certain that some specific greedy CEO had (a) decision-making authority over the crushed T800, and (b) full transcripts of Reese’s interviews with the cops. (In fact, if you were the CEO, and you show up and your factory is trashed but you find a crushed robot and fairly quickly realize its value, the last thing you’re going to do is start talking to the cops, because then the rightful owner of this robot (which you’ll presumably start out thinking is some advanced prototype, not a time traveler) will show up and demand it back.)

In Bad Lieutenant, Harvey Keitel makes a sports bet within the first twenty minutes. His colleagues express doubt. Keitel replies, “You say it like it’s a death sentence. It’s a smart fuckin’ bet.” It was a death sentence.

In the Eagles “Life in the Fast Lane” I thought the “lines on the mirror” meant a cracked mirror. Hey, I was just a kid.

I just realized that Vanellope (of the Sugar Rush von Schweetz) in the movie Wreck It Ralph is a play on vanilla, combined with Penelope.

Speaking of the Eagles, until very, very recently I thought the line from “Hotel California” was

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes Benz
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls men.

The actual word is friends. I still think my version works better though.

I had always heard the “her mind” line as “Her mind is definitely twisted,.” with “definitely” slurred a bit to fit the meter. “Always,” like, up until this very moment.

It’s actually Mercedes bends ; a clever little play on words, IMO.

Ooh, that is clever.

There was a post here which argued rather convincingly (so I remember) that the song was about Stevie Nicks’ and Lindsey Buckingham’s mid-70s party habits.

The story Joe Walsh tells is that the opening guitar lick was a fingering exercise he used to do, and one of the others (can’t remember but probably Don Henley) thought it was catchy enough to hang a hit song on, and they went to work. You may be right about the lyrics though.

And the lesson here is “Pay attention to your fingering exercises, guitar students!”

Yeah, me too.

We are pretty sure. There would have been a lot of inquiries into what happened, by police and other agencies. Sarah Conner was the primary (surviving) witness to all those events so her description of what happened (and will happen) would be very much in the public record. Sure it seems pretty bonkers without the Terminator parts, but with them (along with all the evidence from events like the attack on the police station) it’s pretty compelling. Reese’s testimony would also be public domain, it was a recorded interview in a police station.

Dyson was a tech lead so far below any C level shenanigans (and he says the had the chip when he arrived as a junior engineer and was kept in the dark by the higher ups as to where it came from)

Wait the factory at the end of T1 is the Cyberdyne plant? Is that implied anywhere? It seems a bigger coincidence than the terminator in T2 happening to come across the two things that can actually damage him (liquid nitrogen and molten metal) at the end of T2.

Yes, it’s Cyberdyne. Deleted T1 scene here:

Not too sure what electronic manufacturing processes require hydraulic presses, but it’s not my field, tbh.

It’s not a coincidence. It’s a closed temporal loop.

My ears always heard it as “Fred”, which made about as much sense as the rest of the song…

Kansas guitarist Kerry Livgren created a guitar exercise to help him learn fingerpicking. His wife heard it, liked the melody, and suggested he write lyrics for it. It became “Dust In The Wind”, the highest-charting single in the band’s history.

SImilarly, the opening riff to Guns n Roses’ Sweet Child O’ Mine was one of Slash’s warm-up exercises.

Friends is a much better rhyme.

I know that and you know that, but it seems like a minority internet opinion. Come on folks, Tiffany twisted and Mercedes bends makes a perfect line. Where are those liner notes when you need them?