Right of assembly. The newspapers rights to cover the news. Are you really unable to understand that?
We’ve already covered the SCOTUS case that determined the right of assembly does not include the right camp. If you are going to argue that the SCOTUS’s ruling is irrelevant, then you are just making shit up.
No newspaper has been prevented from printing any story.
And free speech and due process … really, John, it’s all in the Constitution. Some of us do take that shit seriously, for some reason.
The 80s Who went to jail for the killing of 4 students and wounding 9 more at Kent State?
The right to assemble peacefully.
The right to a free press, unless you think the recent cite
shouldn’t count – after all, the press was allowed to report, if only to report that they’d been barred from reporting. 
The right to free press, free speech, and free elections, if you agree these have been suborned by Big Money.
This subthread started in a dispute over whether U.S. government is “different” from Egypt’s. If we stipulate that U.S. is better, is that to be the new motto of the Land of the Free?
“Our democracy is better than that of some Arab dictatorships.”
Armed police in full para-military combat kit stood in front of seated teenagers and sprayed them with pepper - in Egypt? Don’t talk crazy.
The people of Egypt have rights that are universal. That includes the right of peaceful assembly and association, the right to free speech, and the right to determine their own destiny. These are human rights the US will stand up for them everywhere.
Barack Obama
Well almost everywhere.
For some reason, a parable about a frog and a scorpion comes to mind…
Not everybody is camping. The cops are spraying all kinds of people including bystanders and reporters. Even an occasional politician.
Besides, the Court is not always right. It is more political than it has ever been.
Do you think the police are checking to see if people are camping? Have you no shame at all? You are grabbing at BS to defend the indefensible.
Lets do it like you. Prove all the people who have been sprayed m beaten and arrested were camping. Because they were not. You can not.
Twenty-Four dead in Egypt over the last 3 days. Yep, just like the good ol’ US of A right now.
Link.
Because they will go farther we are exempted from what we do? We have put 2 Iraq war veterans in the hospital, cracked a skull open and ruptured a spleen.
We are doing the same damn thing, but just to a slightly less degree.
The government should not beat its people. I know that is a strange lefty belief. We beat and arrested reporters. Some 70 year old poet went down to check out what was happening and he and his wife took a beating.
In Egypt they are fighting the military. In America we are have paramilitary police beating American citizens.
In righty world, all is well.
http://punditspew.com/post/12189519462/the-gruesome-effects-of-rubber-bullets-on-peaceful-prote Yep, we can do a lot of harm to peaceful protesters.
That’s a strawman. I was responding to someone who said they were equivalent. Do you agree that they are?
Did you click on the wrong link?
You’re referring to something that occurred over forty years ago, before most of us were even born.
BTW, once more, please produce the evidence for your claim that the pizzerias surrounding Zucotti Park have hired 22 people.
A story mentioning that the protesters are ordering lots of pizzas doesn’t count unless it mentions 22 people being hired.
It was long ago. But it was in America by American troops. That is the point. I could give you sites about how many people were killed by police trying to unionize in America. You must understand who the police work for, and it is not you. You just get to pay their salaries.
OMG, they killed Joe Hill! Unite Wobblies! Down with Standard Oil! Oh, wait…
Question regarding the closing down of the NYC air space last week. The only newspaper I’m seeing report that is The Guardian. Nothing (that I can find) in the NYT or the WaPo or any other US newspaper. I did see a report that the NBC affiliate in NYC had mistakenly reported this, but I can’t find the original report or anything afterwards.
So, did that really happen?
And just to be clear, I think there have been many instances of overreaction by the police, and many legitimate complaints that the protestors can and should lodge against NYC (and other places). But that doesn’t make the US Egypt or, even more ridiculous, Syria.
Should I take that as a “no, it didn’t happen”?
Which Side Are You On?
Not a single person has been stopped from assembling. Zero. None. You can assemble anywhere you want as long as you don’t take over property. We’ve discussed this thoroughly. You should be able to understand this. In the case of the Detroit “occupation”, they had an extended permit. That ends tonight, Nov 21st. Maybe you could have researched that since you claim you visited and supported the movement.
You have continually come to this debate with nothing more than opinion. Your opinion doesn’t square with the law of the land. You can’t take over property in the name of free speech. That has absolutely nothing to do with the right of assembly which is just what it says. You have the right to assemble and discuss your ideas with other people. It does not mean you can break the law doing it.
From the same article I cited: “Leaders with Occupy Detroit say they plan to continue their movement, but in a building in Detroit”. They did not “occupy” Detroit. They had a permit. They did it lawfully and will continue to do so presumably within the law at a private location. As long as they are not disturbing the peace they can talk continuously among themselves until hell freezes over.