And this is the basis for my claim that Danny had planned everything (besides the EMP pinch) from the very beginning. Everyone commented that Terry lived his life by an utterly rigid schedule. Danny met Tess at the restaurant (instead of the museum or anyplace else) because he knew that Terry would show up shortly afterwards. It was his plan all along to get flagged and brought to the beatin’ room. My guess on the backstory - he saw on the plans that there was a mechanical room that led directly to the elevator shafts, and curiously had no security cameras. He contacted his old pal Bruiser, who coincidently was the night shift beatin’ guy for Terry’s casinos, and found out that was the beatin’ room, so he arranged things so he’d be getting a beatin’ the night of the heist.
It’s too bad for him he couldn’t convince the NGC they were just as good as cash.
I’d have to watch it again, but didn’t they just pay Bruiser a flat fee ($1 million springs to mind) to fake Danny’s beating, as opposed to giving him an even cut? I’d consider him a contractor, not a partner in the enterprise.
Well, you can also argue that Bruiser wasn’t in on the whole plan, and only knew that Danny needed him to mimic a beatdown while Danny escaped through the ceiling for a short time. And Bruiser’s payoff wasn’t a promise of the cut of the stash, but a business expense out of Danny’s pocket, as it were.
On the other hand, he gets brought in (pretty randomly IMO) during Twelve to spring Frank from jail, and seems like he’s clued in, so maybe he could be counted.
What be this mysterious “Twelve” you speak of? Is it some spec script floating around somewhere? I know it was odd of them to skip straight to Thirteen for the one and only sequel; was “Twelve” some fanfiction written to fill holes between the two, and only two, movies?
ok guys, so I know this is a few YEARS after the original question was asked, but here’s my take. I do not believe that this is a hole in the movie, it is far to well scripted for that. the only guys who claim that the bags was 'full of flyers for hookers" are the guys that see them blown up. not the best witnesses are they? the bags when taken to the van is taken there on a time limit, so no time to actually check the bags. what then is the chance that the bags wasn’t actually “full” but did contain some hooker flyers with something else added that would make the bags seem full (much like a balloon effect?). what convince me that the flyers is actually with the Chinese guy in the container, is the strange question Rusty ask him as he settles in: “something to read?”. isn’t that a play on words that indicate that the Chinese guy actually have a lot of reading material already? hooker flyers, anyone?
Yeah, but even if they’d managed to tape the conversation, they’d have had to get Tess to watch it somehow; either know when she’s watching the TV in her room, or manipulate her into watching when they wanted. It’s as easy to do that as it’s happening as it would at any other time.
Something I noticed on later viewings was at the very end, when Terry figures out he’d been watching a duplicate of his vault. There’s an inlay in the real vault floor that has the name of the casino, and he says it was just installed last week. First off, Danny and the crew were tapped in to the video system, so they’d have known (and should have duplicated) the inlay in their fake vault. But worse than that, we’re told all movie long how secure this vault is; you need keys and passcodes just to get off the casino floor, and more keys and passcodes to get into the elevator down to the vault; the security is updated every day, and nobody who doesn’t absolutely have to be there gets in. And Terry waived all that security to let some flooring contractors in just to do a fancy inlay in a place that practically no one ever sees? I wonder where they kept the $50 million while the flooring guys were working a few feet away?
No, it isn’t, at all. The remake is well-scripted, clever, fun, with terrific acting, great chemistry, beautiful filmed and edited, with a wonderful soundtrack, and filled with tons of memorable, snappy dialog. The original, while fun to watch for seeing Vegas of the time period and watching the Rat Pack clearly have a blast making it, is a pretty lousy movie. Bad script, lousy dialog, a silly heist, incredibly dated, and about a half hour too long. Oh, and with a terrible Sammy Davis song. It’s exactly the type of film that SHOULD be remade – one with a great concept, but terribly executed.
One of the guys tells her to go upstairs and watch TV, then, when she’s in the room, another one calls her and says “turn to channel <whatever>”, and she does so while he’s on the phone.
I recently read some listicle about “why Hollywood movies are so crappy lately” that claimed that Ocean’s 12 came about when some producer was reading a script for a new heist movie, and had the brainstorm of turning it into the Ocean’s 11 sequel that everybody wanted. So they beat the script with a hammer until it turned into … something…serviceable.
They had to make those bags not only appear full, but feel full. These were casino employees carrying them so even if they weren’t all flyers, they were unquestionably something heavy and bulky, which is where the hole becomes pertinent, since no one can isolate the origin of these mystery objects.