What a load of pompous supercilious nonsense.
Sometimes anger is the right fucking response, and the healthy fucking response.
One of the ways I recognize myself as being fortunate is that I was raised in a household that encouraged me to think for myself – not specifically about religion, but in general about the world. So I didn’t have to go through anything like the OP seems to have, withdrawing from a cult and possibly having family conflict because of it. My parents allowed me to stop going to Sunday school when I was 13, so I did. I haven’t looked back.
So congratulations and good luck to the OP.
Yea, from a guy that believed in a hokey religion.
He worshipped a natural object, more or less.
throws confetti
I have some close friends who are religious, one of whom is even a minister, and it usually doesn’t matter. But every once in a while something happens to remind me this person believes in magic. It’s a totally different worldview.
I’m agnostic by the way. The universe is too weird for me to make a definitive conclusion one way or another, but I’d place bets that none of the current world religions has it right.
Feeling an emotion and acting on it are two different things.
It is not healthy when one’s action is dictated entirely by emotions.
To even utter this phrase suggests that you still have a relationship with a Jehovah, which means that deep down you still believe that a Jehovah exists so that they can be a target of your curse.
Keep on the path and you will eventually get past this step to becoming a true atheist, one who does not have a need to be in opposition to any supreme being.
Speaking as a theist (but not FOR the theists), I say meh. People of all kinds and creeds claim to believe this or that. But, how do they act? As long as you treat your neighbor as you would be treated, I don’t generally care what you believe.
Indeed. Then why your supercilious diatribe in reaction to the OP expressing feelings?
The old cliche is that the opposite of love isn’t hate; the opposite of love is indifference.
Hating God or being angry at God or cursing God or thinking God is evil is not atheism.
Think of it this way; when you hear about some terrible event in the world, like an earthquake that destroyed a village and killed a bunch of people, do you get angry at Zeus for causing that earthquake? I doubt it. That’s because nobody believes in Zeus enough to think he causes earthquakes. Nobody believes in Zeus enough to get angry at him.
That’s an emoticon. Dare you allow yourself the implication that you are experiencing an emotion? Perhaps it might overwhelm you, like some lesser being?
If you went through what I did in this process and did not look back in anger, you would be either a robot or a sociopath, a person without feelings.
Perhaps I should clarify some things in my original post. When I said, “I can think or do what I want without fear…” I didn’t mean it like President Trump would mean it: “Now I have no boundries or morals.” I meant that what I think, do, and say no longer have to be endlessly second guessed for sinful intent. I have broken free of the mind control that permeated my life.
That doesn’t mean I’m free to be utterly selfish, but I will be more selfish now without the inevitable self-flogging of guilt.
Also, if the profanity in my post offended you, I will not be apologizing. All profanity is are words deemed impolite because they are over emotive. I am not going to apologize for my emotions anymore.
On the other hand, if my profanity allowed you a chance to feel superior, go ahead. Enjoy your refinement.
Good grief, give this nonsense a rest. I’ve been an atheist since I was about ten, but “fuck you, god” is a perfectly normal emotional reaction to living in a family and community environment where religion is a constant bludgeon. It’s not directed at the non-existent entity, it’s directed at the people involved in creating this oppressive milieu.
Sure, it would be more technically correct to say “fuck you, religion”. Does anything really hinge on that?
Or are you one of these believers who likes to claim that backsliders haven’t really lost their faith, there are just “angry at god”?
I feel it’s an important point. Identifying the source of the problem is a necessary step in solving the problem. When something terrible is done in the name of religion, I think we should remember that the terrible thing was done by people not by a non-existent supernatural being.
Did you not read where I said I was saying fuck you to nothing?
This phrase is not a flippant comment for shock value, or proof that I hate or am angry at a supreme being. I am acknowledging that as far as I can know, god does NOT exist. I am saying fuck you to a fictional character.
“They say such nice things about people at their funerals that it makes me sad to realize I’m going to miss mine by just a few days.” (Garrison Keillor)
“A universe simple enough to be understood is too simple to produce a mind capable of understanding it.” (Cambridge cosmologist John Barrow)
“My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, but stranger than we can imagine.” (J.B.S. Haldane)
For 53 years I’ve been a Militant Agnostic - “I don’t know, and neither do you.”
I was a devout Catholic until one day when I was 17. It was a profound moment that I’ll never forget- I was about to walk in to Sunday Mass when I suddenly realized “I don’t believe this anymore.” The intense rush of relief felt like a heavy shroud had fallen off me.
I can’t recall the date, but my atheism was cemented when I was watching the movie Ghost, for reasons that I’m sure the film’s producers did not intend. It was a TV broadcast, so I guess sometime in the mid to late 1990s.
That’s a feat of strength, walking away from the JW’s. They work hard to isolate people and remove any existing moral infrastructure to impose their own twisted ideals on their people and getting away from that is not easy. I was lucky, they didn’t get hold of me until I was a teenager and I already had a strong foundation of not believing in gods to draw on but it was still a wrench leaving my “family” after having dissolved so many other relationships in service to the JW ideal of only associating with other JWs. I’ve known many who’ve fought themselves free of that particular pit of suckage and the only thing they all have in common is a lovely set of psychic scars. Totally worth it, though, that ideology is death on a stick.
Not true.
(1) It can be a “fuck you” to an idea of Jehovah—an idea which demonstrably exists and which one is angry at.
(2) It can be a “test” or a “declaration of independence”—saying something you previously wouldn’t have dared to say.
Happened to me. Traumatic brain injury. Ended my life as I knew it and ended me as others knew me and needed me.
Fuck you! Tahoe driver on I 80 Christmas Eve 2017 and Fuck you! State Farm.
(Non-tempt at derailing over) your patience and tolerance has been appreciated.