Even better, chain the gun down so the barrel remains pointing downrange if control is lost.
An uzi is purpose built to kill people. The instructor successfully taught a nine year old how to use an uzi.
The owner of the gun range says she wasn’t too young, because the age limit for that type of weapon at their range is 8. According to CNN no charges will be filed…but OSHA is investigating.
Where did you find that out? Is there a video? Or ??? How do you know it was 3 rounds?
I thought she was 9???
I think that may have been referring to this story.
I’ll take the position that it is unfair to compare these two anecdotal incidents to condemn all 8 and 9 year old children from using Uzis. After all, no one is reporting on the other side of the issue on all the times children use Uzis to defend themselves from criminals. Liberal media never reports those stories.
Aren’t they pretty ineffective anyway? I’m pretty sure I saw a number of episodes of a documentary called the A-Team in which it was shown that you can spray all over the place with an Uzi and it will just cause the bad guys to scatter without anyone actually getting hurt.
Frank, I’m 46 and I still get told I can’t do this or that (generally, things I’m perfectly qualified to do) because “you’re a girl!”
Some people seem to think the female half of the human species never gets taller than the table.
Damn, Gus, quit salivating so much. It’s unbecoming. On the CBS evening news tonight, a bit more of the video was shown. Firing range guy on little girl’s left, about even with her. Right hand on her back. She depresses trigger in full-auto. Barrel swings up and to left from recoil. Stopped video there. Clearly seen, though, barrel end is swinging up on a trajectory to bring LOF in line with his head. Think the 8 age was a typo on poster’s part.
If male soldiers are “our boys”, why can’t female soldiers be “our girls”? The fact of the matter is that when an army is comprised mainly of teenagers and near-teenagers, it’s hard not to think of them as boys and girls rather than as men and women. Hell, I’m 40, and they all look like toddlers to me. Also, they’re on my lawn.
As to the Uzi - if a weapon, article of clothing or accessory is carried exclusively by young women, after a while everyone will start thinking of them as “girls’ guns/clothing/accessories”. This has nothing to do with the quality of the weapon and everything to do with ordinary stereotyping.
(Note that this only applies to the old, full-sized Uzis. The more compact models are still used by commandosand their ilk and are thus still safely masculine).
And I’m certain that is all they will remember of this trip.:mad:
I was going to ask this. There has been a lot of talk of instructing kids to shoot. I got the impression it was more of a “come shoot machine guns!” place like I’ve seen advertised in Vegas. Such as this.
What is funny, is that in the US itself the stereotype is exactly the opposite: use of Uzis by gangsters and secret service types has branded it an excessively “macho” weapon.
The 8 year old was a reference to an entirely different incident involving a young boy.
From that site’s FAQ about age restrictions:
They clearly say that the parent or guardian is to be the person who hands the weapon to the youth/minor. That move right there gives the range some legal protection.
Different state different laws.
Only if it’s a handgun:
" If permitted by a monitoring range safety officer, a supervising parent or guardian can hand a handgun to a child. Under such conditions, the minor CAN operate a handgun."
Given that they specifically call out that parents have to hand a handgun to a child, it’s reasonable to assume that all other guns can go directly from the instructor to the child.
Yeah.
Back to the incident, the instructor (Charles Vacca) needed to be close enough to quickly reach out and control the Uzi. That poor girl will have to suffer while she recovers because of Vacca’s incompetence.
I just watched the video. Vacca was plenty close enough to have controlled the situation but his left hand was in the wrong place - below the girl’s hands as if to help her hold up the weapon instead of back a bit and at the ready, ready to control the usual muzzle drift.
More: Vacca’s right hand was on the girl’s lower back, and IME that didn’t contribute to the problem. In fact I think it helped Vacca be closer to the girl. It’s his left hand that’s key here, again IME and from what I could see from the Huffington Post video.
Bullitt, the incompetence began and ended when he put an Uzi in the hands of a 9 year old girl. There is no “right” way to go about it, period.