Of Heroes and Survivors

I still don’t get the heart surgeon as a hero bit. I mean if I am an auto mechanic (I was one once) and I fix your brakes correctly which allows you to stop. This then prevents you from hitting a school bus full of children and killing everyone in your car and half of the kids in the bus. Does this make me a hero?
Kerist if the heart surgeon is a hero for saving one life, then I must be a medal of honor winner for not only saving your miserable hide, everyone else in your car and all those kids. :smiley:

I will agree that hero is over used. But the examples given truely suck

Dingdingding.

Half literate schlepps eh? But what really causes me to respond here is your pluralization of hero . Its not heros dammit because you’re not talking about submarine sandwiches. It should be heroes

And what Scylla said.

After much reflection, I’ve found the words that best express my view of the OP.

You stupid bitch.
I’ve known many survivors of incest. Only some one completely ignorant of incest could view it as less than a lethal danger. Has any one ever wept on your shoulder as they tell you about being gang raped by male relatives at family get togethers? Have you ever watched a girl switch from one personality to another and then literally go catatonic? How many of your friends have tried to deal with daddy raping them by slitting their wrists?

Your example was more than flawed. You were wrong. If you can’t even admit that, you’re not worth listening to.

Doesn’t this suspenwhatever person violate the “Don’t be a jerk” rule? I think he/she is doing nothing other than yanking chains. If not, he/she is nothing more than a condescending, self-righteous, arrogant POS who is breathing oxygen that more deserving people might someday need. If this person is really a single parent, which I doubt, I hope the child in the equation is able to see through the cloud of BS that must surround it.

I can’t believe it’s a woman! Seriously. Aren’t they supposed to be all compassionate and cuddly? Jesus.

And there we have it folks. A person who reckons they…“have a lot of things figured out”, obviously has a whole lot more thinking to do.

Suspenderzzz, one of the signs that most of us take as an indication of maturity is the realisation that we have no fucking idea, (along with grey hairs and saggy bits…but the acknowlegement of our own ignorance and lack of wisdom is generally the first hint that we have finally made it to adulthood!!).

Your obnoxious arrogance that reckons you have everything ‘figured’, and that you presume to think MORE than most folk just now makes me chortle. I really hope you ARE just a teenager looking to yank some chains, 'cos if you are an adult with a child (as you suggest), you have a hell of a lot of growing up to partake in. Good luck on your journey…I feel you’re going to need lots of it. :rolleyes:

Thanks, Tripler. I needed that.

Just trying to bring a little levity to the stupidity. :smiley:

Tripler
Saving the world, one sandwich at a time. . .

How very interesting to read all those comments about how I couldn’t possibly a woman and/or a single parent and/or older than 17. LOL!!!

People, your stereotypes are hanging out! You think you are so smart when you just buy into the status quo and spout it left and right. What is your idea of a grown-up single parent??? Someone angelic, girly, compassionate, someone like all those schlepps that people call heroes?

It’s people who have these pre-conceived notions who have the growing up to do, not I. But, really, I feel complitmented. The first few years I was a single parent, I was struggling hard. No, wait, don’t well up yet with Admiration – not struggling in the sense that the brainwashed would instantly assume, and become all understanding and encouraging (barf). I was struggling hard to make people understand that all those angelic stereotypes don’t apply to me and never will!!!

In RL it is a lot harder to convince people of that, because they don’t want to hear it. It scares them to see a single adult female with child who so completely rails against the rules of being a goody-two-shoes survivor or whatever bullshit, and gets away with it. As I have said earlier in this topic, they would always deliberately twist my words when I said, “don’t call me hero and all that bullshit”, and say “oh, don’t be so MODEST”. At least a humble, overly modest person in that “Situation” (another word I hate when applied in certain cases – it’s loaded) is something they could deal with. They could dish out a little much needed "encouragement. A totally rebellious fuck who goes against every label society tries to slap on me is something scary.

Secretly they envied me for daring to be non-conformist.

As for the person who mentioned my child – he grew up hearing all the bullshit, and he thinks about it the same way I do. In classroom discussions he thinks completely out of the box, and teachers have called him a genius, an enigma, and someone with amazing analytical insight for his age.

People, broaden your horizons. First of all, change your ideas of what a woman/adult/parent/single parent should be pigeonholed in. YOu have a whole lot to learn about real people. There are many of us out here who don’t fit the stereotypes. Many conform and put their true beliefs on the backburner, because they think that it is vital in today’s world to go with the crowd or end up alone. Well, friends who only like me when I give up my true feelings and conform to their opinions just so they won’t feel threatened, can go fuck themselves. Those are not true friends. I don’t conform for anybody.

I don’t really think a heart surgeon is a hero, either. You misinterpret me. I was trying to juxtapose professions at both extreme ends of the spectrum to make a point. Let me make it again, maybe it got lost in all the noise: If we have reached the point as a society where we must call working people “heroes” just for being, well, working people, why do we apply the label only to the lowly loser-type jobs and not to the ones that at least carry a tremendous amount of responsibility and are generally regarded as winner-type jobs? See, that’s where the condescention and patronizing comes in. That is my whole point.

The one that makes me so annoyed is the over use of the word “brave.”

A prime example on CNN this morning.

"A shark attacked a woman off the shore of a Maui resort, but she bravely swam to safety without being seriously hurt. "

What was so BRAVE about swimming to shore after being bitten by a shark!?! One could argue that she was cowardly running for her life!

The truth is, she was neither brave nor cowardly. SHe was just operating in survival mode. If you’re swmming in the ocean and a shark bites you, time to get the hell out of dodge.

Brave??? Give me a break!

Jesus God, some of us have reached retirement age. Some of us have advanced degrees. Some of us hold very responsible positions in business and in education. Some of us are self employed and some of us provide employment to others. Nearly all of us are head and shoulders beyond this dipstick in terms of life experience, intellectual ability and reasoning power, yet the dipstick presumes to tell us to broaden our horizons. If this person is a day older than 15, I would be astonished. This is NOT a person who is a single parent, unless you count Barbie dolls as living entities.

See what I’m up against, people? I have railed against these pre-conceived notions of what a single parent should be like for years. The more I try to express how I truly feel, the more people feel threatened and don’t want to hear it.

Tell me, Mr. LouisB, what makes you convinced that there is no way that I could be a single parent? The only way you could come to this conclusion is by having some preconceived idea of certain characteristics and worldviews and behaviors that a single parent should possess. Mind telling me what those are, in your HO? Come on, let’s hear your narrow-minded prejudices. I’m all ears.

Because you’re so damned stupid that I doubt you could figure out how to breed and beyond that, with your sunny temperment and …erm…unique…social skills, I find it hard to imagine that anyone would want to get within a hundred feet of you.

Fenris

You know what’s funny, folks? If I had opnened a topic saying, “oh, let’s hear it for all the single parents; I am one and I know how hard it is; and let’s hear it for all the everyday workers who don’t get enough recognition. All the little people who truly keep the world going, and being a single parent is tough, sometimes we struggle to make ends meet”, and so on and so forth, I WOULD HAVE BEEN EMBRACED WITH OPEN ARMS!

There would have been an abundance of posts agreeing with this bullshit. It really is interesting to see what happens when your beliefs run opposite to, and openly challenge, the fuzzy bullshit that people hear in the media, start to believe, embrace as their own opinions, and CLING TO FOR DEAR LIFE.

But, from a human behavior standpoint, the reactions here are understandable. People get scared when someone expresses anything threatening to their beliefs. After all, what if the “troublemaker” has a point, where does that leave us? Our whole value-system dismantled and nothing palatable to replace it!

Scary shit, eh? The more you people beat up on me, the more pleased I am with myself here.

True, because you’d have been posting something worthwhile rather than the silly drivel you’re spouting. Why is this so hard for you to grasp, Sparkles?

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Uh-huh. I suppose that could be true. On the other hand, it could be that you’re posting drivel and people are disagreeing with it because it’s idiotic.

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No, just tedious. Again, almost all of us have been through the “I’m saying shocking things to upset the grown-ups” stage. It’s not new to us.

Fenris

Yeah, because you wouldn’t have started off your Doper career by calling a group of people losers.

You get what you give, love.

Shocking? Why, you give me too much credit. If my views are truly this “shocking”, the sheepishness of the masses is even more widespread than I thought. Now, that is scary.

I keep defending my point, making more arguments, staying on topic. Many posters here have recently reduced themselves to calling me names and/or convincing themselves that I can’t possibly be for real. Anyone who has reached that stage has automatically lost the argument. Because obviously you have run out of legitimate discussion points to refute me.

:: snicker ::

The ol’ “I WIN THE ARGUMENT 'CAUSE I CLAIM I WIN THE ARGUEMENT” gambit.

Someone tell me I wasn’t like this when I was 15. Please?