Oh I doubt that. Your car. Totalled. No one else around. You are drunk and wandering around. Sounds rock solid to me.
This idea that getting a pass on a major traffic offense is “good” because it causes less inconvenience to the perpretrator is morally bankrupt. Should everyone get such a pass, or is your value to society such that you deserve special treatmeng?
I wasn’t trying to say he was being a good cop, just that he was a good person in that he could have made things quite miserable for me but went out of his way to minimize my suffering that night. Having had stops where a police officer went out of his way to stick with me as many fines and charges as possible it was nice to meet someone who said “Screw my job, this woman has suffered enough tonight”.
Speaking as someone who has gotten a few passes; I never assumed I deserved special treatment, but who would decline such an offering? I treat cops’ dogs gratis. I tell them it is a “thank you” for their keeping an eye on my business and their service to the community. If I am pulled over for speeding, and the cop gives me a verbal warning, I don’t argue. I would rather my bankruptcy be of the moral, rather than the economic, variety.
Fun stuff.
My dad was in special forces training in the late 60s. They gassed him too (among a number of other highly uncomfortable things), and he said it was probably the worst physical experience of his entire life. Without starting a major hijack (as opposed to this minor one), it’s a bold statement.
While I can see the purpose of exposing soldiers to all kinds of nastyness as preparation for combat, what’s the use of tasering a police officer? In case the suspect overpowers the officer and gets his taser gun?
Right. He wasn’t a good cop. Just the cop of record when you had a good police experience. Don’t try to weasel out here.
Should everyone who totals her car while drunk be excused by reason of sufficient suffering, or is there something about your case that justifies special pleading?
And that, my friends, is what is wrong with America. Preferring money to morals.
Would you define his behavior as “good” because of his treatment of you, or are you unable to make the distinction?
According to my CHP buddy all but a handful of their doppler radar equipped cars do have speedometers that feed into the radar units. The speedometers and odometers are also checked/calibrated annually by County Weights and Measures to establish legal accuracy for speed by pacing and such. At least one of our local police departments does both as well.
Here’s one answer-- Police Test Nonlethal Weapons
I would not call his behaviour “good”, but I a do not have enough information to make that judgement. If he gives warnings on the majority of his stops because his boss wants him to do that, then maybe he is a good cop. If it is a quid pro quo for me not charging him, then no, he is not a “good” cop.
Thanks.
Regular people tend to get the benefit of the doubt becase if I mistakenly give the wrong person a small level of trust, they can’t really do much harm to me.
Nope, because trusting the wrong one in any way can be a really bad thing.
I guess you have never been to New Rome, Ohio. Before the town was disbanded pretty much entirely due to their police department I was pulled over, harassed and threatened by their cops for not having a front license plate, which would be illegal if my car was registered in Ohio.
It took a hell of a lot of effort to not be thrown into ‘jail’ in the construction trailer that they called the police department because they refused to believe that Pennsylvania (where I live and where my car is registered) does not issue two license plates. Though the license plate was the reason he said he pulled me over, it quickly was revealed that he wanted to search my car and was going to jail me unless I consented to it.
Sounds like a textbook case of corrupt to me.
I wonder whether that is the case in Pennsylvania.
The same reason the gas soldiers…so you know what its like. Well, in the soldiers case its to demonstrate that the chemical gear works. They make you take your mask off in a chanmber full of tear gas, so you know that the mask does indeed work (and help bolster confidence in your gear). I assume that a police officer getting tasered is in much the same vein. They now know what it feels like, so they have more confidence in the device stopping a crazy person they don’t actually want to shoot.
And what about the woman in the video, catsix? Seriously, you think she was in the right?
This sounds like a horrible experience. On the other hand, if a town was disbanded because of the corrupt police department, it sounds like it is waaaayyyy out there on the tail of the bell curve. Hardly a yardstick to judge all police by.
As to my question, which I am not sure you have answered, do you think the oFficer in question (we were talking about him, yes?) would be so stupid as to pull her over for speeding if his radar was not equipped for such stop? Remember, this question is about the use of radar in this instance, not cops in New Rome, Ohio.
That one? I don’t know. I have no reason to think one way or the other. I do think it’s not unreasonable for a person to be under the impression that a cop that is in a moving car can’t pull someone over for speeding. Until this thread, I had never heard of it.
Thanks, Contrapuntal and Shizaru.
Sounds like pepper spray is worse!
That’s not true. There were a lot of reasons why New Rome was dissolved, and yes, the police department had a part in it, but it wasn’t the major motivator.
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After further investigation of New Rome’s history of misconduct, the Ohio Attorney General, on the recommendation of the Ohio State Auditor, concluded that it should be dissolved, though its residents had voted against dissolution in 2003. At the Attorney General’s urging, the Ohio General Assembly passed a law later that year primarily targeted at New Rome, that allowed for the dissolution of a village that had fewer than 150 people, provided little or no public services and had a pattern of wrongdoing or incompetence. On December 1, 2003, the Attorney General filed suit for New Rome’s dissolution in the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas. The complaint cited New Rome for 23 counts of failure to follow state election requirements since 1988, as well as for its failure to file a tax budget.
(Bolding mine)
Yes, New Rome had a bad reputation as a speed trap, but the major issues which led to its demise was the corruption, theft and graft in its officials.
Huh?
So if a cop is driving, say, 40 MPH in the right-hand lane of a 2-lane highway with a posted speed limit of 35 MPH…and you zoom by them on the left at a speed well above their 40 MPH, you think the cop is going to just roll his eyes and say “gee, wish I was stopped at the side of the road with my radar gun pointed at that lady’s car so I could have given her a speeding ticket!”?
I’ve been pulled over by a state trooper while we were both in motion. I was clearly driving faster than him and he was going the speed limit. Thus, I was speeding (didn’t get a ticket, though…it was a strange circumstance).
Wow. Are you serious? You had never heard of it? Have you ever been in a car, anywhere in the United States, ever?
You must lead a really sheltered life…
I must admit I find this hard to believe. Hadn’t you noticed how drivers are very leary of overtaking police vehicles?
Yes, this is odd. The only speeding ticket I have ever been given was by a moving police vehicle (well, by the driver, and only after we’d both stopped, but YKWIM). Over here we use, I think it’s called VASCAR, in the police cars. He ticketed me for doing 94.75mph - 95 and over is a trip to court instead of the fixed penalty and points. Mind you, what bit was his apparent impression that I was “nearly flat out”. I didn’t tell him exactly how I knew that my bike was good for about 135…