Oh, come on! Stupid trends, anyone?

don’t you have appartment numbers on/next to the doors? … and isn’t the reasoning for those pics to show/prove you delivered it to the correct door? … puzzles me that they wouldn’t shot the pic with that relevant information on it.

(somewhat of a head-scratcher for me - maybe they take 2 pics: one for context showing a package on your [clearly ID’d] door, and a second as closeup with the barcodes/label readable )


when I get packages, most delivery guys are eager to get my 4 digits that are on the front door into the pic (and it makes complete sense to me)

Yep. Signs 6" square at about eye level adjacent to the jamb on the knob side. Agree they ought to want to do that, and the company ought to want them to do that.

Some do. Many don’t. That’s all I can factually say about it.

Ultimately it seems the carriers care more about each worker delivering a few percent more packages per day than providing better evidence of their own goofs. When in general Amazon, etc., will equally eat the loss from a mis-delivery or from a porch pirate without making a claim to the shipper, the shipper loses the motivation to be excellent; merely tolerable is good enough.

A sizeable fraction of my packages are delivered by Amazon-branded couriers. I say “-branded” because it’s not a company; it’s really a cobbled-together network of multiple layers of sub, sub-sub, and sub-sub-sub contractors.

At least around here substantially zero delivery workers speak English. Which is not to suggest they are stupid, just that providing them detailed training and tools in their language are obstacles. And it also suggests they are new arrivals working for very low wages. IOW, disposable workers working for disposable middlemen. Not a TQM situation.

That’s just, like, your opinion, man. Art is subjective.

“idiotic”, “it’s junk”, “trained monkey”. Yeah, “detached amusement”, not judgmental at all.

Of course it is. That’s the very nature of art. It connects with something that arouses powerful if often undefinable emotions. But FFS, read what you’re responding to. You’re defending the arrangement of shoes and pocket change in an airport security bin as “art”.

Many decades ago, in the suburban house we bought shortly after we got married, an archetypal “starving artist” came to our door selling his wares. I normally send these people away but this was one of two very rare occasions in my life when I actually bought something being sold door to door. Dammit, his work was good. One of the watercolours that I bought, which he went back and framed himself and returned to us, hangs in my living room to this day. I don’t know what ever happened to him, but the guy had real talent.

The point here is that I don’t need popularity contests to tell me what’s good art and what’s frivolous zero-effort no-talent bullshit. I don’t gravitate to “art” because “internet influencers” tell me that I should. If your argument is that arranging junk in an airport security bin is legitimate art, then your argument is pretty obviously laughable.

I did a weird “junk art” phase right outta “Art school”

I thought I was, oh so clever, and my tin can wind chimes and used coffee filter pictures were the epitome of high Art.

I have boxes & boxes of it, stored in my shed.
I was hurt for weeks no one wanted it.
I had dragged it to a few Starving artist sale fairs.

I was roundly ignored and maybe snickered at.
Live and learn.

You just never know what people will like.

If arty landscapes of airline bins goes viral online and folks click likes, well, it just is.
People are gonna watch it.

An online, YouTube bin or fridge arrangement will not be hanging in museums or a gallery.
These kinds of art things(if it’s art, at all) are fleeting at best. That’s how the interwebs work, after all.

And your argument that splotches of colored ink on a piece of paper is legitimate art is not obviously laughable? Describing art in reductionist language like that is not useful. What is and isn’t art doesn’t depend on the medium, it depends on the talent of the artist.

We do not always agree, but here- we do. I can see that at some level it is “art”, but that is about it.

Art is pretty subjective. After all there was/is? an exhibit with a bannana taped on the wall, canvass? Whatever?

Most of Pollock’s work could have been done by monkeys.

Well, not exactly.

They are splotches and splashes. Slings and drips.

Pollack’s genius was size and color.

I thought yeah, most 6yos could do that until I saw some.
They are wonderous and moving. Not emotionally moving. Like, they move in your eye.
Amazing.

Exactly. Pollack’s paintings don’t translate well to photographic images. In person, they are amazing.

I haven’t seen his work in person, and I really wasn’t arguing that he was a hack or anything. I was just commenting on some less traditional art that is considered by critics to be art, but some more hide bound sorts might consider junk.