Oh goody. US becoming more like USSR

I remember - when you emigrated from USSR in the 70s-80s (those that were allowed to do so) you had to leave all your possessions behind, and were barred from ever visiting again. How nice to see United States moving in the same direction.

Ah but USSR didn’t try to tax you after you left. I guess US is one up in that department.

Not even close.

So someone tries to evade taxes they would have to pay by renouncing US citizenship and you think the US is like the USSR to call that a bogus tax dodge and try to get the money it is due?

Not sure how I see how that follows.

Shouldn’t this be in the other thread you have running about Saverin and his tax situation? If it’s about more than that, you should really put some effort into including other examples of how the USA is becoming more like the USSR.

Well, that’ll teach you to unfriend the US government!

And yeah, I don’t see why you needed another thread on this same subject.

You probably missed the new legislation proposal.

No, you failed to convincingly demonstrate that they are similar. The differences between the USSR laws and things proposed legislation are not subtle.

The ban on re-entry has been the law since 1996.

Title 8Chapter 12Subchapter IIPart II › § 1182 of the US Code.

In Soviet America, thread starts you!

Honestly, if you want to renounce your citizenship as a tax dodge, I would think it de rigueur to deny you future visits. And, I don’t see any particular reason why the government should allow anything (besides you) to leave the country.

The government you just renounced and spat in the face of controls the nation’s borders. Why should they play nice?

Thank you, comrade, for your opinion. I met so many like you in the USSR.

This isn’t acceptable in Great Debates. If you want a debate, make arguments instead of personal comments like this.

Agreed; he made his money here and now doesn’t want to pony up.
Take your ball and leave? Fine, we’re not gonna play with you anymore.

That’s all the argument Terr has. Don’t totally disarm him.

Apparently “tax-dodging Brazilian” is the new definition of an American hero.

Wait, are we saying that a 30% tax on capital gains is the same thing as confiscating everything you own?

I think this case just reinforces the notion that the wealthy are shirking their already low tax obligations.

Ermm . . . Russia and the U.S. are both growing warmer?

So, lack of sympathy for people who demonstrably hate America now constitutes hating America?

Exactly. I wonder if Terr is for or against getting tough on our borders. I for one am for it.

To be fair, the USSR was anti-emigration and pro-immigration (to an extent).