Ohio Issue 1 re Threshold to bring a Constitutional amendment to vote(election on Aug 8) {2023 It was voted down)

The latest YES commercial out there is telling you how “out of state” millionaires (or billionaires?) are trying to turn your children into drag queens and teaching them to change their sex, and the only way to stop this is to vote YES on the issue. Accompanied by a parent tucking their daughter in to bed.

No, I don’t think it’s suppose to make any sense, just the latest in a long line of GOP scare tactics in the state.

LOL, because that’s working so well for our federal constitution, right?

Saw this on Reddit yesterday, apparently sent to NRA members in Ohio. Warning about gun control groups and their out-of-state allies coming to take your guns if Issue 1 fails.

Paid for by an out-of-state group, of course.

This is about one issue, and one issue ONLY. Abortion. The “red team” knows they are about to lose the referendum in November. That is it. Full stop.

The irony is that they will then have a much higher hill to climb on every ballot referendum thereafter. But, you know, foresight, and all that…

I’m just happy to vote no against the POS in August, and know my vote offsets one of the uneducated idiot people I call my friends in this damned town.

I love them all. I do. There is no helping willful stupidity.

Yup.

And how do we know this?

Because Issue 1 seeks to make things more difficult than they were. Out of state billionaires and anti-gun zealots have been able to do what they are scaring people about for ages. And it hasn’t happened.

Presumably it has been “easy” so far. Has that been a problem that has troubled you? Caused problems in the state? You have wished all along that things would be better if only it were more difficult to amend the Ohio constitution?

It’s about more than abortion, it’s about the survival of a morally and intellectually bankrupt political party. For nearly two generations, Republicans picked the low hanging fruit of single-issue anti-abortion voters. All they had to do was say they were against abortion, and those easy votes were theirs. Doesn’t matter if the office you seek has any say in the matter, those votes were there for the harvest. Now with Roe overturned and support for abortion has increased to the point where anti-abortion is a position held by a dwindling minority, those in the majority have started doing something about it. The Kansas vote should have been the canary in the coal mine, instead Republicans doubled and tripled down on anti-abortion. Now in Ohio, the voters were poised to protect abortion rights in a constitutional amendment. Republicans feared that, not because they give two shits about abortion, but because those single issue voters, knowing that basing their vote on abortion would not make a difference, might start to vote on other issues. If that happens, Republicans are doomed. So the people MUST be prevented from enshrining abortion rights, and the only way to do it was to neuter their power to amend the state constitution.

There’s more to it than abortion- if this amendment succeeds, then perhaps the majority of people in favor of gun control might pass gun amendments. Then the single issue gun voters would be forced to start thinking about other issues, and more low hanging fruit becomes unavailable to Republicans. Suddenly those easy electoral wins aren’t so easy. Perhaps their stranglehold on state power is diminished. Even…(shudder)… gerrymandered districts might be referendumed out of existence. The only way to ensure that permanent minority rule is to kill the rights of the people to amend.

Votes have started coming in.

The NO votes are winning in early results.

It’s over. Columbus Dispatch says Issue 1 has failed.

This outcome is what gives me hope. People are paying more attention than is generally believed.

Well done, Ohio!

Completely agreed!

Results like this make me think the Democratic party can again hold off MAGA in the next presidential election. Ohio will go MAGA, but votes like this give me hope for the majority of the nation.

Thanky.

I’ve been following arguments over Issue 1 though I moved out of Ohio several years ago. It’s always been obvious to me that it was an attempt by the Republican-dominated legislature to prevent voters from overturning dumb and destructive laws, with abortion rights being a key issue.

Good to see the scare tactics didn’t work. Now you can tuck your child in bed at night, safer from legislative nimrods in Columbus.

Oh, thank goodness. I don’t live in Ohio, but i have loved ones who do. I’m glad that at least this bit of Republican chicanery failed. May it bode well for the future.

Remember, Wisconsin saved democracy in their state awhile back as well. A couple of wins.

Also the 2 states that had voted on it, the winning side was in the high 50’s. Bump the number to 60 and bob’s your uncle.

Way to go, Ohio! Well done.

I know everyone’s called it but the margin keeps shrinking. I’m not patting ourselves on the back just yet.

The AP called it, if that helps. AIUI, they’re the gold standard in this biz.