OK, NOW I'm REALLY annoyed with the Anti-vaccination crowd

excellant question.

It’s in the flu shot. Babies and pregnant mothers get it.

Influenza (multi-dose vial)[2]
Fluzone (Sanofi-Pasteur)
25 μg/0.5 mL dose

LOL, using Orac as a source? The Geiers are experts and Orac has no clue what he’s talking about.

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You’ve periodically decried the evils of the medical profession, health researchers, the CDC and the FDA for some vast conspiracy to “cover-up” some alleged link between autism and mercury. Or simply labeled them malicious or incompetent.

So, briefly:

Why are the symptoms of autism distinct from the symptoms for mercury poisoning? If a one-year old child came into contact with a quantity of mercury I should expect autism and not symptoms you or I would express were we exposed?

If this conspiracy to deny responsibility exists why has research exploring possible links to autism and thimerosal, continued?

And finally, how do you know that mercury is bad? In what quantities? Who provided the toxic exposure limits for mercury? What with your willingness to disregard research I’m surprised you’d be willing to rely on the research community in this regard as well.

I checked with a doctor before I started chelating, in fact, two doctors who weren’t lying scoundrels that claim thimerosal doesn’t cause autism.

Because it’s this or homework. And the homework is much less fun to mock.

I’ll say, and I have, at great length and in exhaustive (and exhausting) detail.

I’m not a troll. I came here to help expose a fraud and hung around because I saw that lots of people here needed an education.

Kathleen, You forgot to include the details about the Geier’s patients recovering from autism. You only put your “spin” on their altruistic deeds to try to discredit them for helping children.

Here’s the backstory on the expert Geiers, from Slate:

I don’t know anything about the specific Geier article you cut and pasted the text about. I’ll say that at least it doesn’t, for once, appear to rely on the dubious VAERS data set. I’ll also say that it seems exceedingly odd to have 71 autistic children and only 14 controls (9 of them siblings of the 71 autistic children!) The findings themselves - what I can make out of the text you posted, anyway - are inconsistent with other studies of chelation; see the links under “Clinical Trials” at Chelation Watch (the Geier’s could also take note of more sound research strategies as mentioned in those studies, including double blind control procedures).

Ah, yes. The Geiers, who’ve been playing with fake peer review and vaccine lawsuits for ages. I wonder if this is just another one of their papers that wasretracted. Read up on the Geiers, they’re a real prize winner. :rolleyes:

Translation: You searched high and low until you found a couple of quacks that agreed(or pretended to agree) with your own ill-thought-out “diagnosis” and realized they could live off of the chelation treatments they make your poor children suffer through, their income being further bolstered by the other poor souls you’ve somehow deluded.

That’s one vaccine out of all vaccines given. As was pointed out to you on the other thread on this subject that was closed most pregnant women are not getting this shot.

Why do you keep lying?

Oh and the only person who has no idea what he’s talking about is you.

I am responding to him because there are people who will believe him. I believe they deserve the truth.

Even if there is no criminal or coverup activity except in the minds of cranks and scumbags.

Spare me. You’ve got a subjective sample of one at most. You are the worst kind of witness.

No, you flushed them down the toilet.

Meaning you went around desperately trying to find quacks who would tell you what you wanted to hear as opposed to reality.

Don’t you think some nation somewhere would support you in its medical literature?

[Definitely NOT Moderator Status]I can’t believe I’m saying this but here goes…I hope to ghod you are blowing smoke up our asses about making your kids suffer through multiple and continuing chelation “treatments” because, as much as I hate to put up with trollish behavior, the thought that this is being done to children makes me feel ill.[/Definitely NOT Moderator Status]

I’m sorry, Hentor the Barbarian. I didn’t see your post before posting the same article.

:smack:

That’s okay. It’s such a nice, succinct summary of the Geiers, it can’t hurt to repeat it.

BTW, for all, Autism Watch looks like a nice site for education about autism research and an eye toward debunking the crazies.

I’m with you on this. Especially because this child, according to his father, can’t speak and probably can’t communicate to outsiders in a way that’s understandable. It’s disgraceful that this child is being put through this and doesn’t have the ability to ask for help.

What is even worse to me is that treatment is most effective while the child is young. Time is being wasted on a useless treatment while the child is young, so the parent can bask in the glow of “being different” and “puttin’ it to da man”. What will happen to this child when his parents are gone and there is no one to care for him?

The truth has been placed out there several times. The cites have been provided, repeated, replaced, renewed, responded.

The poster is ignoring all information to the contrary.

The poster is refusing to provide actual cites, instead relying on Youtube videos and blog articles to further their ‘cause’.

At this point in time everyone’s going around in circles.