Why didn’t Will Robinson just have Scotty beam it into Mt. Dune?
Nope. I was the right age to see it and probably love it when it came out in theaters, but my folks did not believe in going to movies. So my introduction to SW was Empire Strikes Back, which came out when I was old and criminal enough to sneak in by myself.
Eagles no. But what about a swallow? Or maybe two swallows with a bit of creeper?
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Of course he could have. He just didn’t want to.
And the eagles are some of those. The ring only got a hold of you through your desires and wants. The eagles already had what they wanted the freedom to fly around. Just like how the ring had no hold on Sam because all he wanted was to chill in the Shire and tend his garden.
Not the eagles. Proof, they flew in and rescued Sam and Fordo.
There was like what four Nazgul. There were a bunch more eagles and they only needed one to get through to drop the ring.
After the Ring had been destroyed and there were no more Nazgul or the Will of Sauron.
Which shows they couldnt before.
And there were Nine Nazgul.
Me too, but for other reasons…
“#4. The Villain in Skyfall Is Actually M’s Son”
No! Nearly every MI6 agents refers to M as “Mom” throughout the movie and in previous films in the franchise. Is she the mother of all them? Come on.
Yeah, but…a Wizard could do it.
I always figured that the main reason was that you’d probably end up with a flying Dark Lord. Keep in mind that Gandalf didn’t dare take the Ring himself, either. And that in the end even Frodo failed to resist the Ring at its point of origin; the Ring was only destroyed because of Gollum’s attack on him.
But Bill the Pony carried Frodo all the way to Moria. And then made his way back to the Shire…solo! So…
A) Ordinary animals, let alone jumbo sized ones, are tough as hell in Middle Earth
B) Carrying someone who’s holding The Ring doesn’t make you subject to the burden of The Ring.
Therefore, the Eagles could have carried Frodo and company without any trouble. However…
A) If the eagles were smart, they’d get every Eagle possible loaded up with dwarves and hobbits and fly all the hell over the place, so Sauron has no idea which Eagle (if any) is the important one, especially if the party continues on (sans Frodo and Sam).
B) But there’s still a drawback. No way would Frodo (let alone Sam) let Gollum ride their eagle. And without Gollum, The Ring doesn’t get destroyed. (Frodo froze and couldn’t toss The Ring into the lava himself.)
So…while the Eagles could have gotten Frodo to Mt. Doom, it wouldn’t have done any good.*
*Although—without having to carry The Ring for all of books two and three, would there have been enough of Frodo left that he could have destroyed The Ring?
Unlikely; as I understand it, it was part of the protection of the Ring that no one could bear to destroy it where it was strongest. Sauron knew this, and he was right in the end. It required chance/divine intervention (depending on your interpretation) to destroy the Ring and beat him in the end; without that, he’d have won.
If a eagle had picked Frodo up from the Shire, or even, probably, Rivendell, the Nazgûl could not have stopped them. The Nazgûl were mounted on ordinary horses at first, and they lost even these at the Ford of Bruinen by Rivendell. They then had to return to Mordor (presumably on foot) in order to get new transport, at which point Sauron first supplied them with their wingéd mounts. They don’t show up on them until the Fellowship have passed through Moria, have pent some time relaxing in Lothlorien, and are boating down the Anduin. There would have been plenty of time for an eagle flight to Mount Doom before the Nazgûl got themselves airborne,
I lol’ed.
Obviously Gandalf got the idea from Boromir. “One does not simply walk into Mordor.”
The Will/Eye of Sauron would have dropped them like flies. Then 10000 orc archers.
How high can those archers shoot? Surely not higher than an eagle, and a giant eagle at that, can fly. Though I’m anxious that the Eye of Sauron would have busted out some laser beam
See previous “Drop Frodo and the Ring.” Send up enough eagles as a distraction and the epic would have been a short story.
What actually happened is that someone suggested the “just send the Eagles” plan at the Council of Elrond, but Gandalf having just recounted a night of particularly foul weather he had to endure atop the Orthanc while the Eagles took their sweet time rescuing him says:
No. I don’t think I’ll ever get over Macho Grande
Distinguo. Bill the pony was an ordinary “dumb beast”, although a fairly clever one. He wasn’t even on a par with the “companion ponies” of “magic”-workers like Tom Bombadil and Beorn, much less Mearas superhorses like Shadowfax, much less the sentient and articulate Eagles, who are sort of one of the Speaking Peoples of Middle-Earth in avian form.
The Ring affects creatures according to their capacity for power, and domesticated “lower animals” like dogs or ponies would be incapable of even understanding the temptation it presented. The Eagles, however, are a completely different bucket of chicken: they understand power and lordship and the struggles of armies for mastery, and they would definitely be vulnerable to the lust of the Ring.