Okay, is coronavirus teaching folks about rinsing dishes?

They can survive in a dormant state, often by forming spores, but all organisms require water to have any sort of activity, and microbes need that water to be in their environment.

It’s why if you test your bathroom your toothbrush will have a higher bacteria count than your toilet seat.

When someone shows me the data on how many people get sick from eating off washed dishes, soaped, rinsed, or not, then I will change my habits. Same with toothbrushes. Many habits of germaphobic Americans have nothing to do with danger, just folk wisdom and squeamishness.

Covid 19 is a particular disease spread a particular way. When the danger of contracting it is past I won’t be wearing a respirator mask to the grocery store any more.

I don’t rinse dishes because I’m worried about germs. I rinse them because if I don’t, they taste like soap. And it didn’t take a disease to teach me that, either.

I can’t fathom how anyone can not rinse their dishes.

I bought a portable dishwasher fairly recently. Now I don’t care :slight_smile:

This is an example of technology making people lazy, but in this case it’s worth it. It even saves on water.

I’m amused, in one of the linked threads, by the discussions between those who fill a pot/basin/half sink with hot soapy water, and those who soap each dish, or the sponge. Because I use both methods. If I am washing one or two dishes, or something large and awkward, I soap it or the sponge directly. If I am hand-washing a lot of dishes, I fill something with hot sudsy water. I think I’m being lazy in both cases.

Also, I miss Maggie the Ocelot. :frowning:

No, in a restaurant, it’s washing, rinsing, sanitizing, and air drying.

Of course I rinse my dishes. My beer glasses in particular get multiple risings.

Given that we’re discussing hand washing, there is no “hot enough” that’s relevant.

I have worked as a dishwasher in a cafeteria. We scraped and soaped by hand, arranged them on a rack, and sent them through the commercial washing machine twice. You can’t say those dishes weren’t rinsed.

I also worked as a dishwasher, in a bakery/coffee shop. When those dishes came out of the commercial washer they were hot enough to burn skin. Whole diffferent ball game.

Yeah, I have helped out using the commercial dishwasher at a camp. Scape 'em and load 'em in. They get sprayed, then sprayed with soapy water, then rinsed, and then heated to the point where you can’t touch them. We’d shove them out by shoving a new tray in, so we could keep the process moving, but them we’d have to wait for them to cool before we could unload the dishes and put them away. The heat was definitely how they were sanitized.

Yes, the heat is how they’re sanitized if washed by machine with a high temp setting.

Commercial washers sanitize, usually through heat and a sanitizing chemical rinse. Manual dish washing in food service finishes with a dip in a sanitizing solution and then air drying.

Air drying is supposed to be safer than towel drying, I forget why exactly, but I think it’s because towels can transfer contaminants from dish to dish.

I’ve used dishes that were sanitized by “dipping in a sanitizing solution”. It was a beer booth in Germany. The glasses definitely tasted of the sanitizing solution. It wasn’t horrible, and I frequented that booth for food and drink every day I was there. But it absolutely imparted an undesirable flavor.

The thread title and the topic so far is “Okay, is coronavirus teaching folks about rinsing dishes?”

I don’t think it’s wrong to say the key is the hot water. From your cite: “When you sanitize, you’re killing harmful germs with high heat or a chemical solution.”

Rinsing is explicitly being described as necessary when sanitizing with bleach. “Rinse dishes very thoroughly in clean, hot water. You want all the soap removed because soap that makes its way into your chlorine bleach solution in Step 4 stops the bleach from sanitizing.”

I think it’s clear that we are talking about rinsing dishes that have been washed by hand as opposed to by machine, which is what I thought Ruken meant by “hand washing.”

(Dishwashing machines operate on a rinse cycle by default, so that’s not really much of a debate.)

Ah, that does make sense.