On Gor, what happens to old slave women?

Does it say in the novels what happens to slave women who are no longer young or healthy enough to be attractive sex slaves?

One of the wines or herbal potions or priest-king macguffins that are a staple of Gorean life extends a person’s health almost indefinitely. That is, no one gets old.

[Church Lady] Well, isn’t that convenient! [Church Lady]

I figured they got turned into servants and kept the younger women in line, like the “Aunts” from Atwood’s The Handmaids Tale.

Well, after all they’d been through together, you can’t expect them to send their horses to the glue factory…

Especially since there are no horses on Gor. :smiley:
Yes, the author explains quite early on that Gor’s Caste of Physicians long ago decided not to sweat the petty stuff like smallpox or bubonic plague, but let the population just jolly well get on with evolving better resistance to them, and instead concentrated on overcoming ageing. The Priest-Kings had nothing to do with this, so far as is recorded. (They do however have their own version of the “Stablisation Serums”, as is seen in Priest-Kings of Gor.)

The Serums are the birthright of every Gorean, even the slave-born, and they extend life for an extremely long time in most cases; in a tragic few, they actually hasten ageing (so we are told; we see no instances of it). Tarl at one point meets someone who identifies himself as “Torvald” and speculates that this is indeed the by-now-legendary founder of Gor’s Viking country.

Kajirae who aren’t suited to being sex slaves find other occupations. Indeed, the eponymous Kajira of Gor spends some time in the Gorean equivalent of a sweatshop. And any slave who is too old for manual labour may yet be put to something less strenous; anything that’s too tedious and unsatisfying for a free person to demean himself or herself with. The lot of an old slave on Gor is probably not too much unlike the lot of an old slave in Greek or Roman society.

Yes, exactly. This is why I maintain that Gor novels’ description of slavery is straight-up sexual fantasies rather than advocacy for female slavery as an institution as some suggest. They also have a simple and effective medicine which prevent pregnancy that only needs to be taken once a year, orally. I’m surprised Norman didn’t come up with a side effect that involves making women’s breasts larger while he was at it.

Wait for his upcoming Silicons of Gor.

I figured it would be dealth with, tangentially, in Anal Bleachings of Gor.

Hey, if anal bleaching is on the table, we might as well wish for Nipple Re-pinkeners of Gor while we’re at it.

I would expect they get sold at reduced prices to men of rather unconventional tastes. (We have some few such here, so why not on Gor?)

On Gor, what happens to old slave women?

They go into middle management.

Excerpt from the early, unpublished Emasculating Bitch from Accounting of Gor:


Sort of like Bored of the Rings - an amusing lampoon which, however, wouldn’t work without discarding pretty much every premise from the book being parodied.

I liked the “Earth philosophy professor-cum-Gorean warrior” reference, though. I always think that if being Bristolian were a crime, Tarl Cabot would have to be acquitted for lack of evidence.

Inconsistently, “slave wine” is later mentioned as having effect indefinitely unless the woman is given a “releaser”. But Norman wouldn’t bother making women’s breasts larger. He speaks, through the narrator, often of the significance of slave girls being suitably “hormonally charged” for the role they are fitted for in Gorean society; those who don’t come naturally equipped with large breasts don’t get the collar in the first place.

That said, it’s also emphasised that Goreans are as much interested in a slave-girl’s psychological fitness for her place as in her appearance, and particularly Earth-centric standards of appearance. A “heroin-chic” Earth fashion model wouldn’t be worth beans on Gor, not until she’d had some meat put on her.

Considering this emphasis on nature, it’s surprising how seldom the author bothers to drop the other shoe of sexual relations and factor in the entirely natural consequence of all this shagging. There’s plenty of caveman-style conquest and dominance and so on, and damn-all pregnancy to show for it. But everyone who knows dick about Gor is well aware of this already.

Hmm. So not only do slave women never become withered old hags, barbarian warriors never become feeble, senile old codgers. “Isn’t that convenient” indeed!

Well, as stated above, the Stabilisation Serums don’t necessarily prolong life indefinitely. When Tarl Cabot met the mysterious “Torvald”, it was an unusual enough event for him to have a “WFT? Really him? Could he still be alive?” moment - and the author never actually resolves this. But the narrator’s own father, Matthew Cabot, is certainly stated to be hundreds of years old.

There are some barbarian warriors of distinctly elderly appearance, such as Kutaituchik of the Tuchuks (Nomads of Gor), and some other men who look rather old, such as Qualius, the blind Player whom Tarl encounters in Assassin of Gor. But most Goreans of a martial bent would, I suspect, court death in battle on feeling the onset of old age, preferring to go quickly and on terms of their own choosing rather than die feeble-witted and helpless. Kutaituchik himself pretends to be the Ubar (war chief) of the Tuchuks, so that in the event of war he will be quickly targeted and slain, leaving the real war chief alive, well and operational. He is too old to be capable in battle any more but still finds a role in which he can be of use.

Yeah, because on Gor wisdom of any stripe is pretty much an uwanted commodity. Which also goes with the sex fantasy theory, and also explains why the culture hasn’t advanced in matters other than technology over the years.

Eh? How’d you make that out? What do you mean by “advanced”?

Well, the Preist-Kings have forbidden any advances in tech, but I don’t know of any Preist-Kingly forbiddance of tech in other areas, such as social engineering. For example, I don’t know of any functional democracies on Gor – whatever their form, all the societies I read about are basically kingships where the guy who can kill the others most readily rules. Racism isn’t a problem on Gor, but I hold that it’s just because almost all societies on Gor are tribal in nature and any stranger is treated like an enemy until proven otherwise. It’s a planet where all the cultures have frozen at Roman levels or below. I’d argue, for example, that the men of Torvaldsland might reasonably be expect to evolve a real democracy like the Vikings did, and then, thanks to their society receiving contributions from a wider variety of players than the VERY hierarchical socieities elsewhere on Gor, proceed to conquer the planet.