On self-efficacy in the world

Pick a statement. Which one resonates with you the most? Feel free to give reasons if you like

(Poll options coming)

So long as no one feels they can compel me, I’m fine. I reject instinctively, orders from anyone I don’t respect.

I’m a terrible employee. It’s why I function best as my own guy.

Too vague, too much depends on circumstances involved.

There are times I am HIGHLY irritated when something isn’t done after I’ve asked that it be done, and it could be a life-or-death thing. Or, it could result in a sigh and a shrug that I have to get up and get my own drink.

There are times when it’s a nuisance or uncomfortable to have to do something (driving all over to help husband run a useless-to-me errand, or working with a PITA coworker), but that’s a very different thing from being coerced into something frightening, harmful, disgusting (rape, for instance)

So my answer is:

It depends.

Just here for the pie.

Mmmm, pie.

Neither of your questions work for living in the real world.

And are frankly, a bit scary that anyone would think they would.

I remember a fellow computer geek from a long time ago. His mantra was “Either the bit is off or it is on.” Applied not just to computers but real life. :eek:

So, is that you Dan?

Just don’t touch me.

Pie; I always want pie when I see a poll.

And as far as this one goes I am more of the school that we give each other the space to do as we wish as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. If I get what you are going for that is. I’m really not totally sure.

As Thomas Jefferson said, if “It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg,” it’s all good.

Make mine pie.

When people talk about having power, I often think that there’s a difference between power to (as in, the ability to do what one wants) and power over (as in, the ability to make others do what one wants); and that it’s a problem that we use the same word and often the same terminology for both.

Is that the sort of thing that you’re after?

– The difficulty I have with trying to follow my theory any further, as in trying to work out some way to give different names to the two versions and then trying to get them into the language somehow, is that all too often when I think of real-world examples, the more I think about them the less I can divide the two neatly. I think they are separate things, but they get tangled in practice: in order to be able to do what I want, power to, I also have to have some degree of power over – even if all I want other people to do is to leave me alone so I can get on with whatever I was doing, I have to be able to get them to do that.

(Didn’t vote; at least not yet.)

I hate it when people force me to pay the costs for their own benefit, without giving me a say in the decision. For instance, being a jerk on the freeway. Having a dog that barks 24/7. AirBnB. Parking in my parking spot.

I think that’s a third category: I get to do whatever I want and other people have to sit back and take it.

Interesting that you should say that. Tell me more! Are both of the first two options scary? I’ll presume option three isn’t - who doesn’t like pie?

I’ve completely given up on ever getting anyone to do what I ask, regardless of how well-meaning or well-paid they are. It’s probably 90% my own limitation in being unable to describe what I want (things that seem obvious to be are not obvious to others). But the remaining 10% is the sheer, unbridled incompetence of every single other person on Earth.

I don’t respect authorah at all. But so far I’ve found it easy to work for others; bosses quickly learn that I work best with vague instructions. Micromanagement, not so much.

As long as people ask me outright and take NO for an answer I am fine.

Don’t pussy foot (If you’re not too busy, and if I promise to take one of your shifts next week…) Just say "Can you handle my Tuesday shift?)

Take NO for an answer, without the “What do mean, no?”

This. I wouldn’t bother to ask anymore.

Both or neither. “Everything’s great” is dependent on everything being great. This usually doesn’t involve me giving orders to people, but sometimes does (“Excuse me, could you let me get by?”), and it usually doesn’t involve people giving me orders, but sometimes does (“Excuse me, could you let me get by?”).

Or put another way, in general I like to be left to my own devices, but if I’m parked blocking somebody in I’d rather they asked me to move my car than sit there and stew in developing hatred of me. And while I don’t like bothering people if somebody is parked blocking my car I’ll let them know, after stewing in developing hatred of them for a while.

And, of course, I do like pie.

That’s pretty much how I feel. Do whatever you want - so long as you are minimally doing your job and complying w/ societal standards, just don’t inconvenience me.

If I don’t HAVE to interact w/ you, I don’t care what you do. But if you are driving like an idiot, being unapologetically ignorant in public, not doing the MINIMUM expected in a public service job… - well, you should probably be shot. :wink:

This poll seems to be designed by a libertarian hoping for converts that are unaware of the excluded middle fallacy.

Well now, Apple pie, Pumpkin pie, Rhubarb pie, Mince Meat pie, Sweet Potato pie, Pizza pie, Pi, and almost any kind of pie will be fine, Thanks.