Yeah, but I was just at the beach recently and it should surprise nobody that these songs are still on people’s Pandora or Spotify or whatever they stream to the speakers. Little kids running around and everything. And the songs still get airtime, well maybe not “Under My Thumb” which wasn’t a single. I heard “Brown Sugar” last night for example. Which is not only about Black girls but also heroin.
So the notion that the songs aren’t socially acceptable… is false. You all are either wishful thinkers or living in a bubble.
I know, This happens a lot. One blogger gets something wrong, so everyone then treat it as gospel. And no, there is nothing wrong with wearing a fedora (the woman who started that, went thru a dating app, and saw guy wearing a trilby, and based upon their picture and prose, decided all mean who wear wearing a fedora (she knew crap about hats) are loser creeps- without, of course bothering to meet them.
And if you want to wear socks with sandals- why the fuck not?
Yeah, that is a pure and simple nazi song. It should no longer be played. But some people said that Watch on the Rhine- sung by the germans in Casablanca was a nazi song- nope, it is far older than that.
By coincidence, I recently looked up this song. I agree it is problematic, but it was not written to endorse that POV but rather to document and deplore it.
According to Wikipedia (minor editing): Goffin and King wrote the song after discovering that their babysitter - singer “Little Eva” [Boyd] - was being regularly beaten by her boyfriend. When they inquired why she tolerated such treatment, Eva replied, with complete sincerity, that her boyfriend’s actions were motivated by his love for her.
Yes, I hate to break it to you but “socially acceptable” includes “all kinds of garbage”, in the sense that it is socially acceptable to play songs like “Brown Sugar” and “I’ll Be Watching You” around children, and in the sense that many kids* know the lyrics to “Last Night” by Morgan Wallen, which is about an unhealthy relationship and drunk sex, because that’s tame by modern standards.
~Max
* I guess that particular song depends on region, since it’s country. But rest assured there’s some pop song kids by you know with very adult themes.
I hate to break it to you but some people play Wet Ass Pussy in front of their kids. I would define ‘socially acceptable’ using a broader standard, as in in my examples of pop culture usage.
I think you mean narrower, not broader. I will say the only instance of “Brown Sugar” I could find in recent film or television was a nine year old episode in the Daredevil series, during a flashback to the '70s. “Under My Thumb” had an appropriate cameo in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010). I really can’t think of many modern movies that play the Rolling Stones at all. They’re just so old. The next one I can think of is Goodfellas (1990), “Gimme Shelter” was played prominently in one scene and “Monkey Man” in another.
Fun Fact: It was originally planned to have the Germans sing “The Horst Wessel Lied” (aka “Die Fahne Hoch”—"Raise the Banner’) during the barroom scene in Casablanca, but they couldn’t. It was the NSDAP’s anthem, and the Nazis had copyrighted it. “Die Wacht am Rhein” (“The Watch on the Rhine”), a patriotic nationalist anthem dating back to the 19th century, was used instead.
When I showed Casablanca to my EFL class in Moscow, I asked them if they knew which song the Germans were singing. They all said “Some Fascist song.”
Lied, BTW, is German for “song.” It’s pronounced leed.
