I know it is a loaded topic. I genuinely want to know , without this getting into GD (my debating skills are poor ;)). Plus there will always be some witty responses.
Curtis, some friendly advice: try looking at the world from beyond the narrow criteria you live in. Try to understand that the majority of the world are not Christian. Understand that many worshippers of those other religions are as passionate and full of certitude about their holy beliefs as you are about yours.
Ask yourself “on what premise do I believe that I am right and they are wrong?”
You’re clearly very interested in the subject; how about as you get older, studying religion. Not Christian Theology, but religion as a whole. Maybe travel to places where other religions are worshipped and observe those worshippers being as convinced of their spiritual understanding as you are about yours. Then think a bit.
(And as an aside, this may help you to realise that you cannot logically couch your understanding of atheism as it only disbelieving in Christianity.)
It tells me that someone couldn’t be arsed to write a proper OP. :rolleyes:
No lying involved, simply a social custom to give a childless widow an officially-recognised heir to a portion of her father-in-law’s estate. No-one was intended to be deceived as to the origin of the sperm, any more than giving the British monarch an “official birthday” is meant to fool anyone over the date she was actually born on.
As to the other, suggest you familiarise with earlier discussions as to whether the Commandment is properly rendered “Thou shalt not kill” or “Thou shalt not murder”. We have some Hebrew scholars on the board to help you out, though you may find snarking on Judeo-Christian religion more emotionally satisfying.
Seems to me that an even more obvious indication that the Christian god has multiple personality disorder (not schizophrenia) is the whole Father, Son, and Holy Ghost business. Let’s see now - he is supposedly one god but at the same time he has three simultaneous personalities. Sure sounds like MPD to me!
Sure, I can be a Jew for Brahman. Someone who’ll cause millions of different species just of beetles isn’t the sort who believes in just one right way to do things.
It won’t work. God has no electric charge; otherwise we’d all be rubbing Him against our hair and making Him stick to the wall.
Nope. He clearly has an electrical charge, otherwise he wouldn’t be fond of flinging lightning. As for him being stuck on a wall…well, have you seen him recently? There’s a god on a wall somewhere, I’m sure…
Or, to take that a bit further:
One World: 6 billion people
People have 6 billion unique viewpoints of God. (A significant number of which are the null set, i.e. “God” as envisioned by atheists.)
As for the believers, each and every one of them has a different idea of God. No two completely agree. That would be impossible because no person can ever know completely what another person thinks.
Therefore, as I have often maintained, God=X.
God is merely a variable whose value is decided by the individual envisioning, and therefore constructing, the God. In this way God does, in fact, exist. But only in the sense that a thought, belief, or idea does. The concept is real, but only to the single person who created, and holds to, that personal and unique concept.
That is not to say that a charismatic and/or powerful person can not greatly affect others personal concepts/inventions of their own Gods through threat, attraction, or something else. The followers’ Gods will probably closely resemble the personally manufactured God of the charismatic/powerful one (see: Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc.), but necessarily, can never be exactly the same.
So yes, indian (Virginia?), there is more than one God. Many, many, many more. A different one (or more, in the case of polytheistic belief fabrication) resides in the mind of each and every individual believer. It (“He” to some, I suppose) can never be defined because it (“It”?) is a different construction within each individual.
A nifty “benefit” of this that keeps the believers worshiping an idea they themselves have created (admittedly often with a great deal of influence from family, associates, books, and society as a whole) is that these myriad, inner “Gods” can never be disproven because they can not even be defined…
I can dig it. But for me at least, snarking the Big 3 (Big 2 really, cuz Judaism isn’t often shoved down your throats by adherents) is so much more satisfying. Just because they are so in your face about their fantasies.