Sez you.
Actually, there are plenty more possibilities:
4) Mistaken
5) Misquoted
6) Fictional
7) Poetical
8) Mistranslated
and so forth. Not only do these possibilities exist, but there are literally tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people who believe each one (probably millions, but I’m being conservative).
Plenty of people think Jesus was just mistaken–but that doesn’t make him a lunatic. Plenty of people think he was speaking poetically (“I” in this case might mean "My message of love, for example). Plenty of people think Jesus didn’t actually exist. Plenty think that the apostles misrepresented him.
Suggesting he’s a liar, a lunatic, or a god unnecessarily narrows the debate.
That’s a rude response to a detailed and thought-out reply to your post. Next time try engaging posters’ ideas instead of dismissing them this way.
And this gets into theodicy–the question of evil. You’re telling me that the creator of the world created ebola and enabled it to be spread to children for his enjoyment? You’re telling me that when thousands of people are buried alive in volcanic ash, He does that to show His glory?
Are you familiar with HP Lovecraft and his Cthulhu mythos? Early 20th century horror writer who created a whole stable of gods who were completely alien, who would wipe out humanity without even knowing we were there, who at the very best regarded us as playthings. They’re really, really evil.
But what you suggest eclipses Lovecraft’s vision. His gods simply didn’t care about us. Your god creates horrifying diseases and natural disasters for His enjoyment.
He might be worthy of fear, worthy of worship, worthy of dread. But worthy of glory? Hardly.
I take it you are referring to Romans 1:19-20?
[QUOTE=Romans 1:19-20]
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
[/quote]
But this can’t really be it, can it? He didn’t “promise” this. This was one of Paul’s letters after all, not from God directly. I suppose it could be indirect, but that’s not what you claimed.
And it’s not really a promise. It’s more a declaration that it should be obvious. But here you are claiming that it’s not really obvious to everybody - only to the people God has chosen to make it obvious. That directly contradicts your claims (assuming this is the passage to which you refer - by the way, some actual Biblical references go a LONG way).
Look, the Bible says a lot of things. Maybe this isn’t even the passage you reference. But even if it isn’t, it directly contradicts what you claim the Bible says in another place. So, again, it’s not been promised, it’s not in the Bible (at least not in an uncontradicted way), and it’s not reasonable for people to accept your word for what the Bible says.
You’ll find this message board is full of people who aren’t Christian but who have studied the Bible more than the vast majority of Christians. You’re not going to gain any traction unless you do a better job of actually referencing passages directly instead of giving it filtered through you (and/or anybody else you got these ideas from).
Disclaimer: I have more or less outed myself in previous threads as being Christian - albeit one that appreciates logic and that it’s not illogical to not follow Christianity. And I still have to say, you’ve got no logical legs to stand on. The Jesuits did a much better job, and they still didn’t have an ultimately convincing argument.
Creating a race of people to grovel at your feet is what a pathetic child would do. Why do you worship such a sorry being?
Even worse, according to the great thinkers of the day, He does this as punishment for sins(which I thought Hell was for). And his aim is lousy. Punishing San Francisco results in a tidal wave halfway around the globe and more straight people are killed than gay.
"But maybe you really didn’t mean it that way, so I’ll give you one more chance: "
You’re correct, I ment no offense whatsoever regarding my asking if you were asperger.
Regarding if my belief in Jesus is axiomatic for me I would say, “no, not all the time.” As you know, axiomatic means Self-evident or unquestionable.
A Christian does not grovel at His feet but those who do not know Him will. I do not have to beg, though to me pleading can seem, from time to time, to be the same as begging.
I don’t worship a sorry being, I worship the Lord of lords who is worthy to receive our worship.
Interesting, that you call God a being 
Because they read a few of the threads and saw how some of us treat each other? 
One needs to know what “God’s glory” means, not just what one thinks or wants it to mean. The bible says it is God who controls all weather and yes, that he sends it (tornadoes, etc) for correction :
Job 37:9-13
He loads the thick cloud with moisture;
the clouds scatter his lightning.
12 They turn around and around by his guidance,
to accomplish all that he commands them
on the face of the habitable world.
13 Whether for correction or for his land
or for love, he causes it to happen.
We can’t make clouds, can’t make it rain but we like to think we know how God ought to do things. THAT is why Jesus went to the cross, to make a way where there was no way to save us from OURSELVES.
Prayer is begging. At least prayer for an effect.
No, you worship a fictional Babylonian storm God who got repurposed as the Jewish high roller. He’s not real. A bronze-age attempt at explaining where thunder comes from.
I’d call Superman a man, that doesn’t mean he exists. Surely you are able to understand that?
So the recent tornadoes in Oklahoma that killed all those little kids … God did that?
Man, killing little kids is stone cold EVIL. 
Why would you worship someone like that?
Because it beats thinking for yourself.
When I want Truth, I rely on the prophet Cecil Adams.
I realize you came here to preach, but perhaps you can learn. The epistemological question you raise is very difficult. See this article in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. “I believe because I choose to believe” (i.e., faith) is a tremendously thin epistemological foundation.
Guess what? We know a bit more than they did back then. We can predict areas where tornadoes are likely to hit. We understand how tornadoes get formed, and no god is required. We can even seed clouds for rain, but the moisture must be there. And we can make clouds - nuclear bombs among other ways.
You should stop parroting your religious pamphlets and think for yourself. How come tornadoes hit some of the most Christian parts of the country? Maybe God hates Christians. Or maybe there is no god and the people hit just live in a bad place for tornadoes. I live in the sinful Bay Area, and we’ve had one tornado in the 16 years I’ve been there - and that headed right for a church.
How is someone who kills and tortures so many worthy of your worship? Have you actually read the bible, or just the parts that sound good? Are you aware of what an evil monster God is shown to be, repeatedly?
Truth can usually be proven at some time, Belief cannot. Once something is proven then it is no longer just belief but fact.
Actually we cannot prove it was the words of Jesus, just what someone wrote that he said!