It’s funny—I’m pretty sure at one time this kind of bullshit would’ve been considered absurdity bordering on the surreal, the height of chutzpah. Now it’s such a by-the-numbers response that I’d only be shocked if we didn’t hear about the planned lawsuit.
Too bad the city can’t countersue for the cost of the cleanup and lost revenue, for the family’s failure to do more to teach their little cretin to stay off of train tracks.
Taggers are idiots. The kid was an idiot. An idiot getting killed while being an idiot does contain a little poetic justice in it. That doesn’t mean I’d wish death on the kid, but yeah, it’s kind of funny. I hope the parents don’t get five cents out of their bullshit lawsuit.
She didn’t make any allegations, you whiny hypersensitive snot.
She asked you two goddamn questions, both of which you could have answered without the hostile attitude as they weren’t even accusatory, just suggestive. It’s obvious she thought you were saying it was okay to trespass on to private property and go scavenging for materials to bring home. This would constitute stealing. Folks get shot for less in Texas and Alabama.
All you would have to goddamn do was say “Yeah, the scraps are mine if they are in a scrap heap, dumpsters, that kind of thing…and oh yeah, I work for a construction company and so I have insider connection to this kind of thing.” But you blithely persist in acting as if your original comment wasn’t open to interpretation and people are unfairly misunderstanding you.
You choose the wrong reasons to fly off the handle.
Wow, that took a nasty turn, now didn’t it? Suggesting that I am hypocritical for calling someone a thief is suggesting that I am A) Hypocritical and B) A thief. I don’t know how much more simpe to make it.
Note the construction – “Don’t you think …” It’s called a loaded question. It is not a request for information. It’s a mealy-mouthed way of making an accusation. If she were curious as to the provenance of the scrap, she could have asked about it. Instead, she chose an attack.
Can you really be this obtuse? How about you call the police the next time you see some poor soul steal cans from a dumpster, or a broken lawn mower from off the street. After all, it’s stealing. Can’t have shit like that going on. The next thing you know there’ll be a full fledged fire fight going on.
Folks get shot for all sorts of stupid reasons. Doesn’t make what they were doing wrong.
As I have said before, it never occurred to me that the word scrap, as it refers to plywood, would be open to so many interpretations. Next time I’ll be sure to stress that the scrap is indeed scrap because it had in fact been scrapped and deposited with the rest of the scrap on the scrap heap. Clear enough?
I do not need insider connections to be able to tell a pile of junk from a stack of lumber. You wouldn’t either, if you would just apply yourself.
Coding!! Little help please!
Going to be interesting seeing how that law suit goes. Suddenly it’s someone else’s fault the kid was there? :dubious:
Would be nice if the train authority could countersue the parents for failing to supervise their kid, etc.
You do realize that this is in no way similar to the story in the OP right? You had a moment where you spaced out on where a crosswalk was where the kid in the OP was well known for his vandalism. Hardly a fuckwit moment, more like a fuckwit way of life.
Anyone’s grandpop write, Kilroy Was Here ?
Criminal!
And he’ll say, "C’mon, boys! There’s lots of stuff you can paint here (if you’re not afraid of a little hard work, that is. Yes Tommy, I’m looking in your direction you little dickens!). When you’re done, you can sing campfire songs and then have a “rap” “session” about going steady, and why it’s wrong.
I’m sorry but I am having a hard time grasping your point here. Are you saying that if you woke up one morning and found one of these on the side of your house or business or investment property that you would say, “Oh Boy! Somebody gave me some free art!”?
Just as a rose growing where you don’t want it can be a weed any of these, when used to deface somebody elses property is ugly.
I can tell that this is not going to work for you. You have way too much negative energy invested in it. You do have other options. You can look for a contractor doing small remodelling jobs and ask him or her for scrap plywood. They would much rather you take it than have to haul it away themselves. Or, you can buy a sheet of plywood. B/C should run about $15-$20, significantly cheaper than a similarly sized canvas. After that, you can tag to your heart’s content.
Hope this helps.
You’re right. Sorry, I’ll stop now.
The motorman of the train that hit the kid should sue the family for pain and anguish the kid caused him. He has to live with that incident for the rest of his life.
Depends on the nature of the property and the location of the grafitti. If it were my house, yes, I’d be pissed. If it were in the back alley of a store I owned, or just about anywhere in my multi-level concrete parking garage… meh. There’s a lot of dull, concrete structures in any given city that are actually improved by some creative grafitti.
Of course, I recognize that not everyone who owns that sort of property feels the same way I do, and anyone caught painting them without permission should of course be prosecuted. But honestly, I’d rather look at a bright, colorful mural than a dull concrete overpass or condemned tenement wall.
I’m sorry the kid got killed, but piss on taggers. Bunch of sociopathic, sneaky little weasels in my book.
And the so-called “artistic” grafitti is shit, too. It takes a bizarre combination of cravenness and arrogance sneak in and deface someone else’s property with your version of “art” in the dark of night.
Which is all well and good, so long as the taggers realize that as law-abiding citizens, particulary property owners, have become more and more disenfranchised from these vandalizing little a-holes, we have an increasing desire to leave our mark literally on their droopy-pantsed little asses.
Regards,
Shodan
Of course! How silly of me. It’s not your property, so vandalise away!
The last time I was in San Francisco I saw a guy doing street art with cans of spray paint. He’d invested a little bit in a cheap paper painter’s tarp to protect the sidewalk, a halfway decent respirator, and some plywood stencils. His medium was thin pieces of either particle board, veneer, or delaminated plywood that looked like scrap cut to size. I was darn impressed with both the quality of his work and his economy of movement. I saw two tourists make offers on some pieces in the 5-10 minutes I watched him.
Instead of tagging the sides of buildings, he was using the same skillset to make art and, maybe not so incidentally, some money too. I realize that for some kids the thrill of doing something wrong is probably the main draw, but there are some who just want to make something cool. I’ve seen some spray-painted murals that were really impressive. One was a designated spot that the city indicated for the purpose. If it’s really about putting your work in a permanent public place, there’s really no reason you can’t ask the owner for permission. Heck, considering the quality of some of the work, I might invite a good tagger/street artist to use the side of my building if I lived in an urban area.
If it’s all about the infraction, then you’re really just a thrill-seeker. Why not do something that fills that need but doesn’t cause damage? Start Free-Running or something. You’re still technically trespassing but not doing anything that actually harms someone else or their property.
And yes, vandalism is potentially more damaging than theft. With valuables, you can only steal something once. With tagging, the damage continues until either the building owner or the tagger gives up, or until the tagger is caught and punished. Every time you clean off the paint, it costs time and money, and it’s a psychological violation every single time. It’s like having your place broken into over and over again. Whether the person who breaks in steals something or not, it makes you feel like crap.
Now that’s a hell of a good idea. One problem I see is that scrap plywood is notoriously hard to obtain, due to the difficulty if identifying it, and the fact that most people are darned possessive of their scrap plywood, to the point of shooting on sight those who attempt to haul it away. At least in Alabama and Texas. I’ve heard folks are a bit more open-minded in SF.