The math is:
(100 yards [300 feet] * 5280 feet in one mile * 2000 miles) = 3.168 billion square feet
divided by
43560 square feet in one acre
72,727.3 acres
(100 yards [300 feet] * 5280 feet in one mile * 2000 miles) = 3.168 billion square feet
I came in to post the same numbers :). I’ll just add that farmland averages $3000+ an acre, so we’re talking about roughly $220 million just to pay for that land, if it’s all farmland. That doesn’t account for court costs for folks who don’t want to sell, for clearing the land, for conducting environmental impact studies, etc.
$220 million is not a lot in the grand scheme of government expenditures, but a 100-yard-by-2000-mile swath of cleared land is gonna start getting spendy.
So without knowing what the plan is you can say it is definitely inneffective?
Like I said , inneffective just isn’t the best argument.
Ha, CBP has nearly identical benefits.
And chow hall is not free.
On the other hand, since what has been said about the “plan” by the administration has been exceptionally vague on details (other than “big beautiful wall,” “steel slat barrier,” the “prototypes” that I posted earlier, etc.), there’s bloody little evidence to support the premise that it would be effective, either.
Ha, you’ve never pulled guard duty, Done “training” in white sands or watched a highway in Iraq apparently.
True, so the truth is we just can’t say.
We can speculate about effectiveness but it really means nothing at the end of the day.
You did that? And you only got paid $1300 a month?
One key difference is that a soldier signs up to serve a certain number of years, while a GS does not – as you surely well know. So when the soldier gets tired of watching a bunch of sand and being away from his family, he just won’t reenlist. A Border Patrol agent can immediately check out and get another job, which is apparently the leading reason why they have problems with retention: the job sucks.
Seriously, after service in the military and as a government civilian, you can’t possibly conclude that workers in and out of uniform can be treated the same way… so why are you pursuing this silly argument?
Military healthcare is also a deduction on your check btw just like everywhere else, not free
Do you mean the deduction that says “Federal taxes”?
This is pretty silly. If no plan which is both effective and remotely possible has been put forward, it’s fair to say that the plans are not effective.
Otherwise, I can claim to have an effective plan for building a car fueled entirely with water, and you can’t refute the “effective” part as long as I refuse to put forward a plan.
The charges of inefficacy are rooted in the various vague plans put forward, none of which are both effective and within the realm of possibility.
I never worked a fully civilian government job.
I was dual status. Wore an army uniform the whole time and performed army duties while being considered a civilian employee soooo they kind of can be treated the same.
I’m just saying, people do sucky jobs all the time, especially ones with gov benefits.
Ehhh, cheaper, maybe. But available, that’s a big one. It’s a tough hiring market out there right now. And, not to mention that immigrants are almost always much more motivated and loyal employees than americans.
So, yeah, not having to overpay lazy entitled assholes who don’t know how to put their phone away, if they even bother to show up.
I’ve worked with quite a number of immigrants, and most of htem were probably of questionable legal status. I’d rather work alongside any of them then 90% of my fellow gringos.
What is “should have known”? If they present to you documents that appear to be genuine, then it is the law that you have to accept them. If you single someone out and demand extra documentation, or refuse to accept a form of documentation listed on the I-9, then it is you that is in trouble.
Who does this apply to? If I hire someone to cut down my tree, and it turns out that they were an undocumented worker, then am I on the hook twenty million?
Exactly, employers already check. You are asking to add burdens to them to make sure that they hire private investigators to make damn sure that they are not hiring anyone ineligible, or risk a fine that will put them out of businesses and ruin them and their family and any business partners for life.
Your understanding of the motivations of employers are incorrect, and your draconian measures to prevent the basic functioning of a free labor market are counter productive.
Keep in mind that this extensive vetting would have to be done on all the employees that are hired, not just the brown ones.
Becuase we would no longer be able to have buiesess, if they are risking a 20 million dollar fine for not vetting their employees well enough.
Fair point. Objection withdrawn.
Tricare monthly premiums
https://tricare.mil/Costs/DentalCosts/TDP/Premiums?p=1
Copayments and deductibles
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://tricare.mil/-/media/Files/TRICARE/Publications/Misc/Costs_Sheet_2019.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi17Y2fl5bgAhXGJt8KHeAbB-0QFjAMegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2IVguMIstaVe0CQCZJ4j1V&cshid=1548874561172
But not for $1300 a month, which was your whole point. You were implying that finding 10s of thousands of border patrol agents to man this wall wouldn’t cost a grip because army.
But nobody in the army works for $1300 a month. Entry level pay right now by the time someone gets out of training is over $1500 a month, minimum BAH is $783, plus BAS and other benefits. Bare minimum starting pay is over $30k, and as you know a lot of that is predicated on making E-5 in a few years when the pay really starts to take off. Plus college benefits, retirement, etc. A basic grunt costs the government a lot of money annually.
It already seems like you’re not a fan of a Trump styled wall, but you’re super eager to throw taxpayer money at coming up with a wall that could work – why? And if we’re throwing billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars at something, don’t you think this should be a bill with lots of details that gets the benefit of a public debate? Are you arguing that we should give the executive branch an open ended check for border security just because you can imagine an effective “money is no object” border barrier?
Your reservist background is showing, active duty doesn’t pay anything for co-pays nor is tricare deducted from their paychecks.
Not sure if you are joking or not, but the first link is for Dental services.
And the second link clearly shows that Active Duty military and their families have no enrollment fees, deductibles, or any costs for any covered service.
I’m well aware of this because I spent 22 years getting medical care for my family and I, and never paid a dime.
If I have sex with a woman who shows me an ID that says she is 22, and later it turns out she is (some illegal age), am I off the hook?
Treat businesses and people not legally allowed to work the same way.
(At the same time, I absolutely am in favor of increased visas and whatnot)