Oprah Winfrey

Monday’s show. Wow. Everybody in Monday’s audience got a brand new Pontic G6 fully loaded, with OnStar and the works. It was an invitation-only audience apparently culled from letters and videos from people showing their beat-up old junkers.

There also was a young woman who had left home at 13 because of an abusive father. She has lived in foster homes, with relatives, and on the street, taking upon herself the initiative to be the first female in her family ever to get a high school diploma. And she did it with a high grade point average. Now, at 20, she is struggling to attend a local community college in Los Angeles. She is cheerful and grateful for what little she has, but she is lonely and has no money to spare for things like clothes and haircuts. She wrote Oprah asking for a makeover. She got that — from one of the world’s most famous models — along with a $10,000 designer wardrobe. Oh, and a scholarship for full tuition, books, and room and board at any university in the world that she chooses.

Finally, a concerned neighbor wrote in that the couple down the street from her, who have been caring for foster children with remarkable TLC for years (and I mean the real problem kids — abused, rejected, neglected) might be evicted from their home because the owner had to sell. Long story short, Oprah bought them the house, gave it $30,000 in renovations, and refurnished it top to bottom with everything from new appliances to laptop computers for every child.

What an angel this woman is.

Eh, I think she’s just starved for attention. I think there are far more worthwhile causes to spend money on than buying cars for a bunch of middle class folk down on their luck. But giving to charity doesn’t get you an audience screaming about how great you are.

shrug I don’t know about her being an angel or anything, but I know alot of starved-for-attention people who never give anyone squat but heart or head ache.

Ok, she’s not curing cancer or solving the world’s problems, but hey…she’s helping take care of people in her backyard. I honestly think she believes in the idea that “It takes a village”. It’s really heartening to see people like that still exist.

She didn’t hook these people up for life, but that’s not the point. She gave them hope. She gave them a bright spot in a tough life. She gave them a hand up when they needed it. Sometimes that’s all a person needs.

Why would you impugn that?

Oprah, didn’t give away squat. Pontiac did. Link

Hey, Pontiac gets good advertising, Oprah gets attention and middle class yokels get a free car…

Everybody wins.

Well, God bless Pontiac too, then. But they would have done nothing were it not for Oprah’s efforts and caring. And for the wealth-envy folks, Oprah has done Herculean charity work with everything from African children with AIDS to Appalachian families with lost hope through her Angel Network.

Actually, she did indeed hook both the homeless girl and the foster care family up for life. Major, major, life-changing gifts. I honestly do understand her when she says that the thing she loves above all else is making a difference in peoples’ lives and making their dreams come true. Though I have nowhere near her means, I feel the same way and do what little I can. There is no greater joy than edifying someone else.

What’s the tax burden from gifts like these? Don’t you have to pay taxes on the car as income? How about the house and renovations? They’ll probably have to take a home equity loan just to pay the taxes on the 30K.

See the link above. Pontiac is paying all taxes plus all customizations. Incidentally, I just watched the aftershow on DVR. They gave the homeless girl — rather, the formerly homeless girl — a car, too. Wow. From homeless to Harvard just like that. Just plain wow.

Either Oprah is a fantastic actress, or she genuinely wants to help people. The look on her face when she is giving something to a family who needs it is pure joy. She worked very hard for a long time to build up her image so that companies like Pontiac would make such donations. While donations may come from the industries, it’s her hard work that has made it happen.

Bah, I’m not impressed.

I think it’s wonderful. And I think she’s one of the most conscientious entertainment people. I like her, even if she did inflict Dr Phil on the planet.

And did you see the footage of the give away? She’s jumping up and down like a little girl. :smiley: That kind of happy just can’t be faked.

Yes, I did see that! And I saw when she hugged the homeless girl and told her, “What you need is someone who believes in you, and I do.” I mean, my goodness. Yesterday, she was sleeping on park benches and scraping together pennies to buy books for school. Today, she has wardrobe and transportaton to rival any other, and her worry is about whether she should go to Yale or Oxford. And the foster care family. Yesterday, they were trying to figure out how they could possibly keep the children together. Today, they are the owners of their own completely remodeled and refurnished home, and their children have clothes and computers for which they are ever so grateful. Yes, the woman is an angel.

True…but she spends a shitload of money on bigger issues. Is it wrong to have a little fun once in a while?

I like her sensible approach to most things (Dr. Phil excluded.) When she started the angel network she said that yes she had a lot of money and that she did donate to many causes even her bajillion dollars could not fix all the problems that existed in the world, and it is impossible for her to prioratize what most needs doing in ways we would think best. She said that so much more could be done if everyone would just find a way to improve their little chunk of the world.

It doesn’t have to be big, it can be anything from going to those PTA meeting you have been blowing off. Reading to your kid. It can be helping at soup kitchens. Just find a way to make the world a little better because you existed. Even if she could fix all the problems in the world with her cash, what would that make the rest of us?

People that get everything handed to them often don’t value any of it. I like that she is pushing people to take more ownership of the problems that exist in the world. I don’t care why she does it, but I too think she gets genuine pleasure out of it.

I saw a segment regarding this on the Today Show this morning. Good for Oprah, I say.

I don’t watch her show, I don’t read books that have been Oprahsized and I find Dr. Phil (based solely on commercials for his show) to be unbearable; so I’m by no means an Oprah fan. However, other than being responsible for the god-awful festering pile of dung that was also known as Beloved, she’s done nothing scorn-worthy, in my opinion.

By the way, she’s looking fantastic these days.

Sheesh, I can’t believe people are criticizing Oprah for giving shit away!

Sure, she gets publicity that way. The Hilton sisters get publicity for being vacuous dopes. So Oprah isn’t exactly 100% altruistic in her generosity - she publicizes it on her show. But hell, there’s plenty of stuff she can do on her show that would bring in BIG audiences and NOT be generous.

I’ve read plenty of threads on this board about people being pissed off about people sticking their noses into what charities they give to – just do a search on “United Way”, you’ll find plenty of threads. Give Oprah a break – she really does try to make her show a little bit more than a gossipy woman’s daytime show. She helps people out. She promotes reading pretty damn good literature. She encourages people to give to charity through her Angel network. Compared to other daytime hosts she’s a fookin’ saint.

That’s fantastic. She’s really helped these people.

Angel? Let’s not stretch things.

Pontiac provided the cars. The Limited provided the wardrobe for the girl. (Not exactly designer duds but they’ll do.) Best Buy and Home Depot underwrote the renovations to the house, the computers, appliances, electronics, etc.

Out of her estimated $1,000,000,000 (that’s a billion bucks) fortune, Oprah maybe paid for the house and the scholarship. The amount of money she possibly put out is less than 0.005% of her show’s revenue for the year. It would represent a larger percentage of her personal income, to be sure, but I’m not at all convinced that the money for the house and scholarship weren’t from a corporate sponsor to begin with, and if they weren’t, if they weren’t paid for out of the show budget, not Oprah’s personal largesse.

Oprah very nicely used her clout to cajole some corporations into doing something “nice” in exchange for a lot of publicity, goodwill and a heft tax write off.

Yes, it’s very nice and kind and it’s more than any of these folks expected or deserved and yes, it will change their lives in wonderful ways.

But dammit, she’s a billionaire. She absolutely ought to be doing things like this, and on a much greater scale than the 276 people who were invited to her studio for a special episode (which is gonna garner ratings and therefore advertiser dollars, so on and so forth) or people with a TV worthy sob story. And in fact, she ought to be doing it herself, not just acting as a conduit for corporate tax write-off gifts. And, she ought to be doing it without cameras there to capture every blissful, joyful moment.

I’m not criticizing her fordoing this. I’m just saying that it’s not really appropriate or necessary to throw her a parade. It’s sad that we’ve become so jaded as a society that someone doing something that really didn’t take any effort on their part at all gets so much hoopla just because it was “big.”

That’s quite a grand deontic claim. Suppose I thought you should be handing out sandwiches under the bridge instead of wasting your time and resources posting here. You can afford some cheese and bread, can’t you? Oh, and let me guess — you think that the son who stayed behind was shafted by the King, right?

I have never been a fan of Oprah or her show. However, she has done a lot of good for a lot of people. I don’t know her life story, but if I understand it she didn’t exactly grow up in the lap of luxury. So, for her to come as far as she has and then turn around and try to give others a leg up with the money and influence she has amassed, you’ve just got to respect her for that.

So what, though? Why is it less of a nice thing because it possibly did not come out of her personal pocketbook? Personally, I believe that she earned that money and if she never did a thing for anyone that would be her right. (I’m not saying it would be nice, but it would be her right).

I know it’s probably an apples/oranges example, but when was the last time that Bill Gates arranged for someone’s home renovation or JLo gave away a bunch of cars to people that really needed them?