Of course when Haley dies, she’s going to have to explain to her Bureaucratic Deva about the calculated, pre-meditated murder she just pulled. I can’t see how that can be looked at as anything but an overtly evil act.
“Tell her off-panel!”
Welcome to D&D morality. Crystal’s her rival and Haley’s chaotic so it’s perfectly justifiable to wait for a moment of weakness and try to finish them off. It falls under things like burning down “monster”'s villages while they’re sleeping and stuff like that.
She killed an evil character who had previously tried to kill her and might some day try to kill her again. My guess is that her greeter at Arborea or Ysgard will slap her on the back and give her a beer.
Haley knows full well that Crystal will get rezzed. She’s just sending a message – to Crystal, and to Bozzok.
The revolving-door-o’-death in D&D sometimes makes murder a little less Evil, and more just mean (and expensive).
I’m betting 650 will be when we finally see the order of the stick reunited.
Well, that’s pretty much what I mean. The last arc ended with the fall of Azure City and the separation of the OotS. This one has been about their separate adventures and will end with their reunion. The next will no doubt be about taking on Xykon at Girard’s Gate.
I was surprised to realize that in just seventeen strips, Roy will have been dead for a third of the entire story.
Yep. This probably won’t pull her down to “Evil”, but it might make “Good” a slight stretch.
But do we know for certain that Haley was ever “Good”? It’s implied, but never stated, is it? She may have been “Neutral” in the first place.
Haley has stated that she’s chaotic good-ish, and that she has the same alignment as Elan. Elan shows every sign of being chaotic good.
She tested “Good” when exposed to potentially lethal radiation (read : Miko’s Detect Evil).
To be precise, she tested “not evil” which could possibly mean neutral.
Part of that message is probably, “Thanks for your favorite knife. The one you used to sunder my favorite bow.”
Good rebuttal. OK, how about this : she was affected by a goblin cleric’s Unholy Blight in an early strip the same way everyone but Belkar was. Unholy Blight does work on neutral chars, but only does half damage and doesn’t incapacitate.
Also remember when Elan himself got poisoned, and Roy had to put his manhood on the line to save him. That’s at least twice so far when Elan really needed a Neutralize Poison and Durkon wasn’t around to cast it.
As for Haley’s actions in the current strip, I can’t see it as anything other than self-defense. For the past few comics, Crystal has not been a threat only because she’s tenuously held back by the deal with Bozzok. Now that the deal is off, she’s a clear and immediate threat again, and Haley just had the choice of fighting her when Crystal was unprepared, or when Haley herself was.
I don’t see why this counts as “premeditated murder.” Haley has killed plenty of people and things and things that used to be people. How is this any different?
Where do you find the titles of the strips? I only see the strip number.
the strip archive names all the strips
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html
The panel on the left hand side of the page has a link to the current strip, and shows its name.
See the “Comic Archive” icon at the top and bottom of the page? Press that.
What utter crap. Any DM worth anything would absolutely call a pre-meditated murder evil, as well as slaughtering a sleeping village.
Just because your idea of D&D morality is warped doesn’t mean that is how the rules work (it isn’t), and more importantly is not how everyone plays those rules in the first place.
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Because Haley agreed to a truce. In D&D terms, it means that her killing is not justified by a hostile encounter.
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Because she waited until her victim was in the shower where she could be sure of success and time to gloat.
It was an evil act. A good character might be justified in provoking the encounter (outside of hostile action) with her rival if her rival were armed and had a chance to reasonably defend herself. Haley’s murder was cheap (in that her victim was essentially helpless), it was a betrayal of an agreement, and it was premeditated.