Oregon vs. Right-Wing Militias, Round 2

It isn’t getting better and many are urging the GOP to continue to obstruct.

Democracy is losing because the side that favors democracy is weak. Not smaller, just weak.

When Democrats did the same sort of thing in Wisconsin, did you consider them to be on the side opposing democracy?

Well, gosh, I must’ve missed it–could you point out the place in that story where the Democrats in question threatened to shoot state troopers if they were sent to bring them back for the vote and where they encouraged insane white supremacist terrorist groups to engage in threatening behavior on their behalf? I’m sure it’s just a failure of reading comprehension on my part because of course you couldn’t be disingenuously conflating the dissimilar situations as though they shared common elements beyond obstructing a vote in legislature. Heavens forfend.

I think the majority just assumes they’ll eventually go away and won’t do any real harm. They’re wrong. There will be real harm because people like this keep pushing to see what they can get away with. Not necessarily the same people, but people of a like mind.

The GOP says they’ll come back and do their jobs.

I hope it was a lie. I hope they lock the doors and force the vote. You wanna play hardball? Now we’re playing hardball.

Meanwhile, the Gov should have been working with her fellow Governors to track and root out the people who helped the Republicans; they are a danger to any state’s sovereignty when they threaten organized violence.

But the Democrats are weak WEAK weak and will do nothing of the sort.

The Republicans have already gone back on their word. The Democrats should as soon as they’re back hold votes on not only the cap-and-trade bill, but also on the other two bills they walked out on before. If they need a fig leaf, change the punctuation marks in Section 12, Paragraph 7 so they can say that the original bill was killed; this is a different bill.

Oh, and while they’re at it, change their procedural rules so that a majority counts as a quorum.

No, go lower than 50%. More like 25%. That way, it forces everyone to attend, for fear that a small determined group can push something through while most members are out golfing.

The quorum for the Canadian House of Commons is 10. The Senate, 15.

But

Not real impressed with Mr. Baertshiger, either.

Reading that quickly, I thought you said you weren’t that impressed with Mr Batshit.

:slight_smile:

I wouldn’t say that they’re weak - more like they were probably taken by surprise and didn’t know what the best response was. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of these tactics, though. I think other republican caucuses will probably use this as a template for how to push back on democratic majorities: they’ll just threaten them with armed paramilitaries.

The Republican party is adopting some of the same rhetoric that was used by the Democratic party in 19th Century Democratic party. They’re threatening lawlessness if they don’t get their way.

But… but I thought the GOP was the party of law and order!

Happy to see this (Reuters).

I hope they fine him heavily and censure him to boot. And I hope he’s voted out in 2020.

…this is all manner of fucked up.

Talk about projection; wow!