What are some of the more plausible theories about the origins of the Human Immunodeficiency Virus?
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President Reagan had it engineered by George W. Bush ( filling in his earlier ‘Genius Mad Scientist’ days ) in order to kill gays to stop them breeding with each other.
Contrary to many reports, this did not involve either of them mating with chimpanzees. The soviets attempted this in order to disprove the existence of God; but the results were unsatisfactory, as many of us beforehand warned Ilya Ivanovich they would be. Not to mention the obstacles put in the way of pure science by hidebound reactionaries of the mad-dog lackeys of counter-revolutionary landlords and revanchist Weismannist-Mendelist-Morganist nationalist powers.
Although Ivanov attempted to organize the insemination of human females with chimpanzee sperm in Guinea, these plans met with resistance from the French colonial government.
After it was announced that researchers thought HIV came from SIV, Frank Zappa made the quote: “I’d like to know who’s plunkin’ the monkeys”.
That’s arrant nonsense. Everyone knows it was invented by the mad scientist Yakub.
Not to bring up the annoying question, but is it impossible that monkey humping (or chimp humping) turned SIV into HIV? I mean, drinking simian blood *sounds *more plausible, and it M.Hing does have a nasty tinge of racism in it, but can we definitively rule out beastiality as cause of the SIV/HIV link?
I don’t see how it can be ruled out; bestiality is hardly unknown, nor is catching diseases from doing so; that’s one of the best objective arguments against doing so in fact.
I doubt we’ll ever know for sure; the necessary historical data to find out probably doesn’t exist.
Given that hunting and eating monkeys in the given area is a daily occurrence and sex with monkeys would at best be extremely rare (have you ever tried to restrain a monkey?) it’s almost certainly hunting.
Scroll down, “The Origins of AIDS” is an interesting movie.
Warning: you may spend some serious time on this site.
The movie is basically saying a vaccine was developed using an inappropriate type of monkey/chimp
Chimps are very strong. Unless one is thoroughly sedated (or dead) no-one is going to be humping it. They are not like sheep you know. (Mmmmm, all woolly and compliant.
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This tedious reiteration of debunked crap is certainly not fighting ignorance.
Kraposki’s vaccine was developed, and distributed in areas inconsistent with the epidemiological facts of the history of HIV. In addition, samples of all the culture media, and all the developmental, and distributed lots of the actual vaccine used were tested by independent agents of both the WHO, and the CDC, and two other laboratories chosen by European Union health agencies. No trace of Chimpanzee DNA, or HIV, or SIV was found in any of the tests. Yet the meme is perpetuated by idiots who repeat the debunked “facts” as if they were still of importance.
And, as a extra added bonus for those of you who fight on the side of ignorance, because of distrust of the polio vaccination program engendered by this bogus blame mongering, Polio is once again a threat in many countries where it was once eradicated. Way to go, forces of stupidity, you score again!!
Then there is the annoying fact that DNA evidence of HIV in human cadavers, and in the human genome of the region give pretty good evidence that the disease predates our own medical knowledge of viral disease by decades, if not centuries. The disease gained vectors during the 19th and 20th centuries that turned an extremely rare infection into a epidemic. Fear and ignorance are still fighting to make it a pandemic.
It’s the unprotected sex. One zoonotic event is all it takes to move it into humans, after that, it’s all about the humans fucking, or perhaps eating each other.
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Another thing to consider is just what is AIDS? There are reports of AIDS-Like illnesses effecting small tribes of Africans. These reports go back before 1900.
Was that AIDS? Was it something that mutated into AIDS? Is it just coincidence? Who knows?
Look at Marburg, it appeared out of no where in monkeys from Africa. Then it disappeared for a decade. Then it’s cousin Ebola came about. Then vanished. Then a new strain of Ebola appeared from monkeys from tthe Philippines. But this form of Ebola didn’t cause any illness in humans. Then in the late 90s Marburg which only killed a handful of people, started causing outbreaks on the Ebola scale.
Marburg and Ebola are virtually identical as viruses but the are definately two different viruses as they body produces different antibodies to each one. It’s now thought bats are resivours of the virus.
But with HIV for some reason people think it’s so mysterious as if a new disease isn’t capable of popping out of nowhere, though Ebola and Marburg are prime examples of yes, it can happen.