Other ways to make electricity

The only way I’m aware of to make electricity on a commercial scale is to spin a copper coil inside a magnetic field. How you get that sucker spinning can involve any number of things–falling water, steam, bobbing a float up and down in water, etc. But the last step of the process always seems to come down to that coil & magnet.

Oh, and of course the magic of solar cells which involve…I dunno, microscopic gnomes and shit.

But apart from photovoltaic cells and magnet/coil induction, what other ways are there to power up my lamp?

I’m aware of batteries and capacitors, but I’m not sure I care so much about them as they are mainly storage–once they’re spent you either replace the chemicals or pump electricity back into them. I’m also aware I’m probably abusing the lingo given electricity is not what I’m interested in, but rather the motion of electrons. But you know what I’m getting at, right?

I don’t know of any, except I thought about lightening. That’s electricity, correct? Certainly not created by spinning copper or magnets. EDIT: oops, I missed the phrase “commercial scale”.

Seebeck effect

Some applications use a thermocouple (dissimilar metals, one side hot other side cold) such as spacecraft used beyond what is practical for solar to work, to a safety system to keep a pilot lite lit for a gas powered water heater. A while back I’ve heard that perhaps thermocouples could replace a car’s alternator, using waste heat to recharge the car battery and to supply the electrical needs of the running car, but I suspect the cost of it would be too high and the power output too low and may not work well for short trips where the car does not get fully warm so would require a alternator anyway.

Fuel Cells are one way that doesn’t involve spinning magnets/coils, but I don’t think they are quite fully up to commercial quantities of production yet. Atutorial here if you want to know how they work.

The Peltier effect can be used to generate current from materials with a difference in temperature. It’s not terribly efficient. More typically it’s used in the reverse situation, to implement small solid-state heat pumps.

The above-mentioned Seeback and Peltier effects are flip sides of the Thermoelectric effect 9as is the thermocouple). All legitimate methods.

You can build yourself a battery, which will generate DC electricity. Or, as noted, you can use a fuel cell.

Piezoelectricity is different from all the above. I once looked into using it to generate small amounts of power.

There are lots of static electricity generators that don’t work at all like the dynamo “spinning coil in a magnetic field” process, which can produce voltage differences – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_generator

And, of course, there’s always the photoelectric effect – get your power from sunlight.

Edit: others beat me to the punch on both the Peltier and piezoelectric effects.

For what it’s worth, the term “thermocouple” conventionally refers to a thermoelectric temperature sensor, while a non-sensor device for making significant electric power from a temperature differential is usually called a Peltier device. It’s not wrong to call a Peltier device a thermocouple, of course.

Whatever you call them, thermoelectric devices work both ways: they can use a temperature differential to produce electricity or they can use electricity to produce a temperature differential. (Plugging in a Peltier device makes one side cold and the other side hot).

In this way, they’re much like spinning magnets and copper coils. If you apply motion, you get electricity. If you apply electricity, you get motion.

Peltier devices are often used in both satellites (to generate power) and cheap dorm fridges (to chill cheap beer). They’re solid-state, so they’re much quieter than a compressor-based refrigerator, but they’re also a lot less efficient than a compressor-based fridge, which is why your kitchen fridge uses a compressor.

Fuel cells are used all the time, but only for niche applications—often for spacecraft. Honda has done a lot of research on the use of hydrogen fuel cells in cars. It works, but storing hydrogen slush in cars is nontrivial.

There are lots of ways to make electricity without spinning magnets in an electric field, but most of those methods are less efficient and/or more expensive than the alternative.

There has been a fair amount of research into harvesting energy using piezoelectric materials. These convert motion (usually bending) directly into high-voltage, low-current electricity. (They also convert electricity directly into motion). But for a given cost, you’ll usually make more electricity from the same motion with spinning magnets, so this is another niche technology.

Your username should give a hint…:slight_smile:

Not terribly efficient, but with no moving parts it’s extremely reliable and finds use in situations where maintenance access is difficult or impossible. See radioisotope thermal generator. The Voyager 1 spacecraft has been functioning for 40 years now on an RTG, with (as far as we know) no maintenance.

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****The power from a matter/anti-matter annihilation would do it. Unfortunately, the energy needed to create anti-matter is absurdly high compared to what you get in return, so it is not practical. I read that it would take **at least 0.89875518×10 to the 14th power joules ** to create one gram of anti-matter.

Well actually, Jasmine, I have a practically unlimited source of antimatter so creation & acquisition is not a problem. Once I introduce it to a Brussels sprout (Yes, I have finally found a reasonable use for them! Can I get a ‘Eureka’!), how do I harness the resultant energy to do electricity stuff?

Fuel cells are also fancy batteries which the OP seems to be not interested.

The other method not mentioned so far is the turbo electric effect Triboelectric effect - Wikipedia

Famously, the Van de Graff generator used this effect for science and entertainment alike Van de Graaff generator - Wikipedia

The other method that comes to mind is the piezoelectric effect Piezoelectricity - Wikipedia

How about the oft-touted, but never practical Magnetohydrodynamic generator?

No, it isn’t. I was lightening my car the other day when I unloaded groceries, but no electricity was produced, I’m sure.

I was on a diet last week, lightening my body; no electricity there.

I was lightening my financial load recently, when I paid off a mortgage, still no electricity.

Perhaps you mean lightning?

There is also osmotic power, gaining energy from differences in salinity of river and ocean water.

There’s…whatever it is that electric eels do to make electricity. Maybe not practical, but certainly enough to power a lamp.

Certainly practical, but training them to discharge in sequence at the right time and place is the tricky bit.

It’s batteries again, this time with biological components.
http://askanaturalist.com/how-do-electric-eels-generate-electricity/