Um…then I suggest that possibly (possibly mind you) that you didn’t see the whole thing? Just perhaps seeing Newt wasn’t the whole show? Or is it your contention that you can extrapolate Fox’s entire DNC coverage from, what? 5 min? In which case I suppose it was 24hrs of Newt. That wasn’t my experience though…
-XT
Good point. No telling if they will have someone as moving as Obama (personally I got nada from Clintons speech…certainly nothing to gush over). I suppose we’ll see. As with the DNC I’ll be closely following the RNC from the various news outlets to get some perspective.
-XT
Wasn’t that law (the “fairness doctrine”) repealed back in the Reagan days?
I TiVoed 2 nights of their coverage to see if I could stand it, and fast-forwarded through to catch glimpses. I saw Newt twice (not immediately in a row), introduced as something like “Fox News political analyst Newt Gingrich”. I (wrongly?) interpreted that to mean he was who Fox was turning to for political analysis of the convention, much as each of the networks has a general that they haul in during wars. If he wasn’t on more than the two times I happened to catch him, I’ll correct my assumption.
Still, he was on twice to give his views on the politics of the convention. Will they have someone on the left for the RNC, or will they bring back Newt for political analysis of that convention as well?
BrainGlutton:
C’mon, don’t spare our feelings, tell us what you really think of conservatives.
There are; they’re called CNN, NBC and CBS.
Mockingbird:
Isn’t that a question you seem eminently capable of answering yourself with just a little introspection?
Rashak Mani:
Perhaps.
Perhaps we do not care to be characterized as infantile and unconscionable by CNN, NBC and CBS for having different political viewpoints than liberal journalists and editors.
Mockingbird:
What, I have to pay money for some liberal to tell me how bad FOX is? Guess what: I already did, when I subscribed to the Straight Dope.
Diogenes:
You should know; you live on the opposite side of the same world.
Steve MB:
Thank you! You said it before I could, and much better besides! It is entirely unfortunate that economic conservativism and classic conservative principles (which I believe Libertarianism is an extreme example thereof) seem to have been indeliby linked with “religious fruitcakes.”
Jon the Geek:
Sure. When covering the D.C. sniper[s] (after they’d been caught), CNN displayed a weapon “of the same type” used by the sniper. They even showed it in action, at a firing range, firing fully automatic. This segued into a report about the Assault Weapons ban, due to sunset this year, and how the ban would help prevent future repeats of the D.C. Sniper[s].
Never mind that the Assault Weapons Ban has absolutely nothing to do with fully automatic weaponry.
Or that the rifle the D.C. sniper used was never capable of fully automatic fire, in spite of CNN portraying it thus.
Or the fact that the D.C. Sniper[s] could have done equal, if not more damage using a 3-shot (total capacity) bolt-action hunting rifle, commonly available at, say, The Bass Pro Shop, which doesn’t even carry anything resembling an “assault weapon.”
I saw this at work in the break room; I immediately grabbed the remote and changed the channel to FOX, and haven’t looked back.
Mmm, ExTank, there were so many reports with bias (and many of them misleading and with lies) on the gulf war and WMD on FOX, that a sincere man could have turned that remote into mush.
As for your contention that CNN, NBC and CBS are left wing: get this into your knowledge base once and for all: This is a matter of opinion, and clearly the opinion of people on the left should count.
On the right, many do agree Fox news is their news, or fair and balanced :rolleyes: . OTOH, On the left, many, and specially what I would call the “really left”, look CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. with suspicion.
The right knows that they have FOX, while the left is not accepting CNN and others as their own.
A leftist can say to a rightist that Fox is biased, the rightist will response it is actually fair and balanced. A rightist will say to a leftist that CNN is biased, but a leftist usually will respond more often that, indeed, it is not fair and balanced… it is leaning more to the right nowadays.
That would, in fact, go to the very heart of my question. However, it certainly wouldn’t explain the “equal time” segment given to the opposing party after every SOTUS I’ve seen in the last 5 years.
The fact that there are many, many sources claiming that NBC, CNN, CBS are biased one way or the other (furt’s links etc on the right; FAIR and Eric Alterman’s What Liberal Media? etc on the left) supports the view that they are in the middle. Conservatives will tend to notice only the liberal spin and vice versa.
The problem here is that public debate has been pushed so far to the right that the middle is what passes for left in many people’s minds. If you honestly that believe the major network news–the corporate media–is liberal, you need to sharpen your critical thinking skills.
I don’t watch State of the Union speeches live, so maybe I’m just missing out on something obvious, but I haven’t heard anything about giving equal time to the opposition afterwards. I searched Google but only found references to a Clinton speech where he made a joke about “equal time”, and references to fairness laws earlier in the century.
This may be the first time ever that someone has suggested other cable news channels should emulate MSNBC.
I can’t help but note the descending order of convention coverage is inversely related to the ratings of each network. This certainly shows Fox is biased alright – biased in favor of making a lot of advertising revenue. Hell, maybe if they cut out all convention coverage altogether Rupert Murdoch can buy another yacht.
They don’t call it “equal time,” and i don’t knw if the time is really equal, but they always do broadcast what they call a “response” from the opposing party. Try googling on the SOYU + Republican/Democrat response. I’d do it but I’m too lazy.
Unfortunately for the yacht builders’ guild, CNN commands higher ad rates than FNC.
Of course, Mr. 2001, you snipped out that portion of the article that said both overall revenues and per-ad fees were disputed between the two networks. And FAIR, of course, is hardly an unbiased source. Just sayin’.
And if CNN really is designed for people who just tune in briefly to catch up on the news, then they’re not exactly catering to their demographic by having expansive convention coverage.
And again: what network executive in their right mind would want to emulate MSNBC?
Below are just a few links to some things about Rather that seem not to have made the site that you linked us to there. Must have been inadvertant oversights! :rolleyes:
http://www.fair.org/activism/husseini-rather.html
http://www.fair.org/extra/8910/cbs-afghan.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/newsnight/1991885.stm
CBC
Oh, wow! I’d always wondered where this “liberal media” that everyone talks about was hiding. It’s obviously not in Talk Radio, CBS, MSNBC, FOX or ABC. I was beginning to lose hope.
Well, there is liberal talk radio… it’s just hard to find unless you have Sirius or XM, or live in one of a handful of cities. For now.
Clear Channel may be converting more stations to its progressive talk format (Air America + The Ed Schultz Show), since they say it’s been getting “spectacular” ratings in NYC and Portland.
So you believe that links describing Rather as wanting to “go against the current swell of patriotism” and “teach the Pentagon how to run their war” mean that Rather is not liberal? (I grant you that Rather admits in the Letterman interview that he knows nothing about strategy. Not that this stops him from advising the government on strategy, but at least we know up front that he is speaking out on topics for which he is unqualified.)
I was also amused to see Rather’s take on Saddam Hussein:
If Bush had said this, you left-wingers would be screaming “Liar!” at the pitch of your lungs.
Thanks for making my point for me again.
Regards,
Shodan
Don Cherry is the Grand Arbriter of Truth when it comes to hockey, I’ll grant that, but I am a bit more leary of the rest of the CBC lineup…
I just saw Outfoxed last night. Pretty powerful indictment. I hope Murdoch, Ailes, O’Reilly, Hannity, etc., go to see it at some point – just, you know, out of their natural curiosity to get different points of view . . . In fact, I wish there was some way they could be tied to their seats and forced to watch it, Clockwork Orange-style.* 
Either way, I wonder what they would say, afterwards, to defend themselves?
I didn’t know much about Bill O’Reilly before I saw this movie, and damn! What a nasty piece of work! How did the bastard live this long?
*(Oh, and Saddam Hussein should be forced to watch the South Park movie! 
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