Not if Jamie kills him. 
Yeah! Bet he felt pretty damn silly then!
I am officially so angry at this show that I’m not sure I’ll bother to watch the second season.
They can’t even get their goddamn teasers right. You know what tonight’s teaser should have shown, that wouldn’t spoil a damn thing for anybody, only whet everyone’s appetite? Except they apparently don’t give a crap about producing gripping television?
[spoiler]Bloody swollen hand. On table. Hammer. Nail. Bang.
Would that have been so hard?[/spoiler]
We talked about this on Facebook, Sattua, so I won’t rehash it here. I would only suggest that Wentworth is going to have some godawful scenes, so maybe like the Wedding, they don’t want to reveal it beforehand. We didn’t see The Mountain crush Prince Oberyn’s head like a pistachio, either, in the previews of GoT.
I did think the Murtagh and Claire Road Show dragged a bit, but I think they had to do it to indicate how long Jamie was on the run. I’m glad they got in the squirting breast milk and Claire figuring out what Dougal was really after.
Lord have mercy, that was one long, tedious episode. If they were going to show the breast milk expression, one wonders why no one, including Gabaldon, ever even hinted at how Jenny would have been bleeding through her breeks. When one gives birth, it ain’t pretty for a looong time.
Jenny+pregnancy is my only beef with the original book. She gives that famous speech about how horny pregnancy makes her–the speech that sold the book to her publisher, iirc–then gets on a horse a couple of days after a complicated breech delivery, then yes, the aforementioned selective attention paid to which fluids are being expressed. Gabaldon had had three children herself by the time she wrote it, and she generally doesn’t shy from any discussion of body functions (in the books Jamie burps, farts, urinates, and gets the shits), so it’s a very odd aspect of the book.
In later books Claire makes it clear that she uses pinned-in cloths to contain her monthly, but plenty of European peasant women just bled into their clothes. S’why all the layers of petticoats. Also one reason why, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, men didn’t want to work in the same factories with women–the smell. Factories that employed women often put a thick layer of sawdust on the floor to absorb the blood.
I haven’t read the book, but I am trying to picture the climax to this season(and I guess, the first book).
Claire and the group rescues Jamie and because he is so wanted, she escapes through time with him? It’d be awkward to end it with her and Jamie walking in and seeing Frank.
I dunno.
One more episode, Maholoth. Then you’ll see. 
I thought Wentworth was incredible. Very true to the book (minus a wolf-killing scene, which Ron said was too hard to film) and superbly acted. If there are no Emmy nods out of this I’ll be shocked.
I’m glad that the wolf-killing scene was deleted. At some point, the drama gets ridiculous.
I’m also glad that it appears that it’s not she who will think of the way for securing Jamie’s escape.
Poor Tobias Menzies has to have all these actors putting their hands in his crotch.
Considering the pacing of the show, the wolf-killing scene would have made it go long and we would have lost other scenes. I’m okay with it.
Poor Tobias…poor Sam! I read a wonderful blog on Tumblr about how Sam had the harder job, because he had to go to a place where he completely surrenders control. Tobias gets to play up the evil that is within all of us…Sam had to totally play the victim and convince us, which he did and then some.
We didn’t get John Wayne, the lean-to, or the hot springs, but that was the most excruciating hour of television I have ever watched. The acting was superb, the direction was inspired, and the emotions were gut-wrenching.
Au revoir, Frasers. See you in 2016. You deserve a nice cruise to Le Havre, France.
I don’t know about the most excruciating hour of television I ever watched, as that was undoubtedly watching the twin towers fall, but I know what you mean. I’m glad that they made us see “what’s between” Jack and Jamie.
I’m glad that they changed the recovery to Scotland, as I thought that Jamie having yet another powerful uncle stretched the bounds of credulity. We’ll presumably be meeting another rich and powerful uncle next season.
Didn’t much care for the scene with Claire saying au revoir. Reminded me of Dorothy departing Oz.
That was not what I or Mrs. Mahaloth expected at all.
It was a very well done episode and I guess I liked it, but I find myself disappointed for reasons that are hard to put my finger on. I thought we would get some kind of resolution or acknowledgement of Frank, who we have not seen in cutaway for a long time. I also thought that Claire would consider taking Jamie through time and I don’t think the idea even came up.
Was the moment she rejected returning to the 1940’s supposed to be her final rejection of the concept? I did not get the sense she put all that behind her permanently, but rather that she just did not want to leave Jamie. Does she narrate thought in the book that indicate she decided to permanently stay in the past?
My wife and I also found the scenes of brutality with Jamie in prison were almost too painful to watch. In fact, I skipped 15 seconds or so here and there because…it pushed towards unnecessarily graphic for me and Mrs. Mahaloth. It isn’t he content; we’ve watched far worse(more intense) things in movies, but the graphic nature of what happened to Jamie didn’t seem to fit with the vibe of the show. Instead of “show, not tell”, I would have…switched it to “show some, tell some, imply a lot through haunted looks”. I guess we are in the minority, but it bothered us.
Is Jack Randall dead? I hope not. He just got slammed under a door. I want Jamie or Claire to shoot him dead while he pleads with them. He’s a great villain. How could Claire ever see anything but Black Jack when she looks at Frank again?
We liked the season and eagerly await season 2, which I believe that have NOT EVEN STARTED filming yet. This show needs to avoid the Battlestar schedule of coming on whenever they get a chance and move to the Game of Thrones method of coming on every year.
Anyway, it was not the ending I pictured. Did the author know she was making multiple books and create a vast epic that takes place across multiple books? I hope so.
Just saw it last night. Still processing what I thought of it, though I wasn’t throwing-things-at-the-wall angry. Three ideas are dancing around the corners of my mind:
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In the book we’re told about the marks on Jamie’s body afterward and left to imagine what happened to him (also, he has a lot more marks on his body). While imagination is more horrible than anything they could film, maybe that’s just bad policy for television.
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Mildly ticked off that it becomes A Major Television Event when a man gets raped, but I guess that’s the way of things.
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They reached for the weaksauce again in the final crisis of redeeming Jamie’s soul. As usual, what happened in the book is much weirder and more exciting. From a scriptwriter’s POV I guess they wanted a more logical, easy-to-follow line of recovery for Jamie, though I dunno why opium-fueled naked wrestling wouldn’t have made good television. To each his own.
Mahaloth, I believe she had the first three-book arc mapped out by the time she sent in the first one for editing. It’s true that lots of things aren’t resolved.
One major point is that Jamie can’t travel through time. When he took Claire to the rocks, he didn’t hear the buzzing or get pulled toward them. No time-traveling genes in his family, apparently. And yes, that scene when he takes her there is supposed to be her final decision to stay with him in the 18th century forever.
See my remarks above re. showing-not-telling the torture-rape. In the book you’re left to imagine it for yourself, though in book 2 iirc Jamie does confess to Claire that what bothers him most is that he got off from it.
I thought folks had told me Jamie was the guy in the kilt standing outside in the dark in the pilot episode. Hmmm…
It happened very subtly in the show, but when Jamie brought Claire back to Craigh na dun, he actually touched the rock without effect. IIRC, he approached the boulder with his sword, as if was a dangerous thing, then put the sword away when he realized it was just another rock to him. Its effect on Claire was immediate, and she was half way through when Jamie pulled her back.
So to answer your question, he can’t time travel. She can. She theorizes that it’s a genetic thing.
If you REALLY want an answer, I’ll tell you:
No, he doesn’t die. Re Frank: You’re assuming that she’ll see Frank again, but in this point in time, Frank is a fading memory which is not corrupted by Jack. She sees them as two distinct people, and she not only loved Frank, but is wrought with guilt for leaving him. Her love for him, despite his distant connection with Jamie’s mortal enemy, remains a sore point between Claire and Jamie throughout the 2nd book.
Acc to Sam Heughan on Twitter, they’re currently “in France” (his words, not mine) filming S2.
The ending of Book 1 is roughly the same. Claire has led Jamie out of his torment and they arise from the dungeon into the light, homeless and jobless, but happy to be together and looking forward to the future.
A perpetually bothersome question that Gabaldon has only begun to address in books 7 and 8 
I’m surprised that they left out the quote that summarizes Jamie’s torment. “I roused to him, Claire.” It wasn’t that he was branded by JR (which in the book Randall does, not Jamie), but the fact that after being alternately tortured then pleasured by Randall, his body actually betrayed him by rousing to Randall’s touch.
I assume that the homophobic undercurrent of Jamie’s torment (which would have been perfectly natural given the time and place) made it too hot to handle.
- They reached for the weaksauce again in the final crisis of redeeming Jamie’s soul. As usual, what happened in the book is much weirder and more exciting. From a scriptwriter’s POV I guess they wanted a more logical, easy-to-follow line of recovery for Jamie, though I dunno why opium-fueled naked wrestling wouldn’t have made good television. To each his own.
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I completely agree. Once again, I think that Moore softened those scenes considerably because he’d already gotten a great deal of grief for the spanking scene. Ah well.
Maybe it’s because I’ve read the books, but I thought he DID say something like that to her.
I think the whole series has been very well done, and the acting is superb.