Papsett, "The Rainbow Bridge," dog killing, and bullshit New Age pet philosophy

And when did this happen? I certainly didn’t get the memo. :rolleyes:

That would be funny if it was something that I had just made up, but it’s a direct reference to a line in one of the greater works of literature of the past century, which you’ve obviously never read or you would have gotten it. Try again!

No, it doesn’t. According to Strunk And White’s Elements Of Style, single quotes ’ signify a paraphrase. Double quotes such as you used " are used only for a verbatim quote.
Thus, the following are both correct

VCO3 said “You’re kidding, right?”
VCO3 said ‘Am I now lying to hide my assholity? Or am I actually ignorant of the difference between single and double quotes’

Are you grieving ? Emotionally traumatized ? No ? Then you can take a few insults. It’s going after a person who is grieving, and who posted in MPISIMS ( instead of GD or the Pit ) about her feelings that makes your thread bad. Like I said, if she was defending magic rainbow bridges in GD, I’d rip into her; if she’s looking for sympathy in MPSIMS, that’s different. You shouldn’t pick on grieving people; it’s the sort of thing Phelps does when he pickets funerals.

Actually you posted an OP that everyone disagrees with. And the personal attacks (some of which may be disguised as “reasonable argument”…I can see where you might be confused) may be a result of you making a personal attack on someone mourning her dog.

I don’t know if you’ve done anything to warrent an official SDMB “jerk” title. But you’ve done enough in the the common parlance.

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VCO3’s First Maxim: Some = All for increasingly large values for Some.

Also, I’m going to go ahead and rescind my attack on Papsett, the OP of the [NOT A DIRECT QUOTE FOR YOU INSANE GRAMMATICAL NITPICKERS WHO CAN’T FORMULATE ACTUAL ARGUMENTS SO YOU NITPICK] “Animals go to the rainbow bridge when they die” thread. I am a pet lover and I understand how heartbreaking the whole ordeal must have been, especially since it sounds like it was completely necessary and justified and not the actions of a maniac who just wanted to kill an animal. I’m sorry for using you as the sounding board for the opinion of my OP, which I still stand by, which is that this whole “Rainbow Bridge” philosophy is the glurgiest, scariest thing I’ve ever heard, especially if it results in people being more willing to have animals put down because it seems like they’re not ending a life but simply “returning an animal to the rainbow bridge” (Which I’m not saying is what Papsett did).

I hope that smooths things out a bit. I took time to think things over, and that’s the conclusion I came to. It was not the result of all of the “Fuck you, D00d!” and “Dickknuckle!” type insults hurled by squealing chimps; you guys are a major detriment to the SDMB and should go write for South Park or something.

It might help if you stopped yelling, and actually produced some evidence that this has actually happened. If you retract your claim that papsett did this you are really just talking out of your ass.

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You are still an ass, VC03, but thank you for your retraction, such as it was.

Next time read more, post way, way, way less.

That’s a wonderful apology mate. You’re a bigger man now for having made it.
Bwahahahahahaha. :smiley:

VCO3, if you can’t take insults, you probably shouldn’t enter the pit.

Also, chimps aren’t literate, and seldom post to message boards… :stuck_out_tongue:

I can formulate arguments perfectly well. Your continued misuse of punctuation is seperate topic.

This is a deliberate mischaracterization, and not a paraphrase at all.

Oh, I can take them, I just prefer them to be far more creative and impressive rather than fourth-generation Beavis and Buttheadisms.

Again, sorry to Papsett, and brutally buttfuck the rest of you guys. :wink:

Not yet you’re not, no. But it’s inevitable with your kind of simp. I’ve seen it before, and you fit the pattern exactly. Sooner or later you’ll post something else stupid and nasty and get called on it, flame out in a seven page Pit thread of vituperative stupidity in which you’ll break every Board rule extant, and get banned for it.
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Yes. I am. I’m glad we’re clear on that.

Ah, but we can’t hold a candle to your creativity. I mean, the way you invented stuff in the OP was just brilliant.

I’m just awed and feel special being in the same thread as someone of your creative calibre.

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VCO3 - You know, your apology might have seemed more sincere had you put the part where you admit to totally misrepresenting PapSett’s thread in the spiffy giant font, and not the bit where you whine about people correcting your punctuation. “Yeah, I was wrong about PapSett, but you guys are MEEEEEEN!” is not quite as genuine-sounding as “I misread the thread in question and failed to note that the dog who was put down was, in fact, a genuine danger. PapSett did not put the dog down just to punish it for growling, I should not have implied that she had, and I deeply regret the misunderstanding.” Just for future reference, since I have a feeling we’re going to be doing this a lot.

Incidentally, I thought both Guin’s usage of “syphillitic anal tumor” and Cervaise’s H.P. Lovecraft reference were both creative and impressive. Perhaps I’m just another monkey, though.

I very rarely read or post in the BBQ Pit, and wish to hell I had not opened it today.

I have literally been physically ill all weekend over what happened. I did not ‘kill’ Jake and use the Rainbow Bridge to ease my mind. While I’m sure the Rainbow Bridge is a load of bullshit, I do believe that animals have souls , and if there is a Heaven , that my pets that have gone before me will be there waiting for me. If you don’t share my beliefs, fine. I’ll leave you alone, you leave me alone. But to suggest for one minute that I had him euthanized on a whim is so very, very wrong.

Jake had a history of food aggression. I have 30 years experience with training dogs, and I talked to the rescue coordinator at great length about him. I knew I was not going to have a walk in the park , but I was assured that so long as there was no food involved, he should be alright with the other dogs. They were wrong. I fed him in a seperate dog run, well away from the others, and when I would sit the bowl down, he immidiately would begin growling at me. As was pointed out in one of the first posts , I well know the difference between a play growl and a serious growl. He was dead serious. I had worked up to being able to touch him on the butt when he ate, but I DID NOT feel safe about it. In the one occasion I fed him in a crate rather than a run , he was even worse, snarling and throwing himself against the crate even tho I was half way across the room.

He was starting to show the same response with toys. The attack on Cricket , an 8 lb Papillon had no trigger at all. He was sleeping , she was about 4 feet away going to get a drink of water, and he came up off the dog bed with an expression I had never seen on a dog’s face before. I said his name repetedly, hoping to divert his attention , but he did not hear me. Jake was no longer in that body; he had been replaced by something entirely different. I put myself between him-120 lbs. vs. 8 lbs. is not a fair fight. I put my hand on his collar and he turned that growl on me. I don’t know what kept him from attacking , because I could see it in his face- he wanted to. I am not a small woman, and it took all my strength to drag him back to the crate , growling the whole way. After this , if any of the other dogs looked over the gate in the dog room at him in the crate, he went nuts , throwing himself at the crate door.

I called the coordinator immidiately and told her what had happened. It was HER suggestion , not mine, to euthanize Jake. Looking back , I believe it was the right one. He could have never been placed in a home with other animals or children , and would have had to beed placed with someone with training/aggression experience. Not bloody likely going to happen.

I only had him 3 days, but I loved him. He wanted to be a good dog. He wanted to be MY dog. He would come up behind me when I was at the computer and lay his big goobery head on my shoulder and snuffle me. If I left him outside alone he would stand on his hind legs and look in the window, looking for me. He had never been allowed on furniture before, and seeing my dogs on the couch, he went and put one front foot up and looked over his shoulder at me, very clealy asking permission. When I laughed and told him it was OK , he hauled his bulk up and settled down with a contented groan. I have many good memories of Jakie in those 3 days… as well as a few bad ones. I will never forget seeing him rising up off that bed, zeroed in on Cricket, moving so slowly, so eerily , it looked like he was levitating. I will never forget the dull, blank look in his eyes when he looked up at me with that bass rumbling growl vibrating from his chest.

So condem me if you will. Having him euthanized was one of the hardest things I have ever done, and had I thought there was a chance at rehabillitating him , you bet your ass I would have tried. But other lives were at stake. One bite- that’s all it would have taken for him to end the life of Cricket or Jay, or my cats. Not much more for either of my Gordons. It is not a chance I was willing to take

I want to thank the majority of you , who stood up for me. It is appreciated more than you can ever know.

Anna

VC03, I don’t know you and have never gotten into any shit with you that I know of, so don’t think I’m here to grind an axe with you. I’m not. I clicked on this link b/c I’m an animal lover and volunteer at the SPCA, so the thought of someone killing her dog for some bullshit reason drives me nuts, and I had to see who on the SDMB would do such a thing. I was pissed off in advance at the mere thought.

However, when I read the original thread, I felt nothing but pity for Papsett. My cat was killed by a dog, in front of me, so I know what a dog in attack mode is like. Do you? It’s pretty fucking scary and dangerous. Papsett had no choice. Jake was a threat to her well-being and the safety of her pre-existing pet family. Can you understand how painful this situation was for her? She made it clear that she loved this dog and euthanizing him was excruciating misery to her. My heart went out to her, and I congratulate her for even trying with this troubled dog. Her pain comes out of her willingness to open her heart and home to a needy animal, and it didn’t work out. It’s very sad.

Then I read your thread. I was appalled. Talk about kicking someone when she’s down. How could you read the thread I read and still Pit her? I think it’s this shock and dismay that has caused people to call you a fuckknuckle, etc. It’s a crude way of saying, “How could you?!?” You misrepresented her reasons for putting Jake down, you misrepresented her euphemism about the Rainbow Bridge as being some sort of dangerous, delusional rationalization, and worst of all, this thread might make her feel even WORSE about her already terrible decision! How could you add hurt to a situation that must already be so guilt-inducing and sad for someone?

I hope this helps you understand the pile-on. People get defensive when they see someone in pain being gratuitiously attacked. I’d step back and think about why not one single person has posted in support of your OP. Threads on the SDMB are rarely this unanimous. Ought to give one pause.

I’m glad Papsett hasn’t posted to this thread. I hope she doesn’t see it at all.

Papsett, nobody’s condemning you except for the idiot who started this thing. I’m not a dog person and I feel for you. Der Trihs isn’t a glurge peron and he feels for you. Practically the whole Board feels bad for you, and we all understand that you were faced with a damned tough decision, made the right call and are welcome to whatever comfort and consolation you can get or we can provide. Just accept the support, and to hell with the rest of it.

Rob

Damn, you posted while I was posting, just wishing you wouldn’t see this thread! You DO NOT have to explain yourself. No one thinks you did anything wrong. I think it’s safe to say that everyone’s heart goes out to you, including VC03, who got his panties in a bunch for no good reason. Please don’t let this make you feel worse! You were very kind and brave even to try with Jake. You did what you had to do. Feel better when you can.