I’ve always thought these parents were getting railroaded and now new DNA evidence has conclusively cleared them
Will we see apologies from people like Nancy Grace?
Don’t hold your breath - she has something of a backlog.
I never thought they were being “railroaded.” I don’t think they were ever in real danger of being tried, let alone convicted.
Their problem wasn’t the criminal justice system- it was the media AND millions of fairly ordinary Americans who were way too quick to judge the Ramseys.
Look, child beauty pageants creep me out, and they creep out millions of other rational people. But it doesn’t follow that parents who enter their kids in such pageants are homicidal maniacs.
But millions of people made snap judgments of a family they didn’t really know at all, based on superficial impressions.
While I feel the whole pageant thing is in bad taste, I always felt sorry for the parents. Imagine if you just wake up to find your precious child dead, raped by a stranger. Nothing could make things worse than people actually accusing you of doing the killing.
While there is a high statistical probability of any child death been caused by close relatives, I rather hold my judgment. What do I gain from adding to the chorus of condemnation? What is it gained by swallowing the shit that the press pours down our throats?
If I were Nancy Grace I’d commit seppuku stat. But there is a reason I am not Nancy Grace: I have a conscience.
Satan does not permit his minions to apologize.
ETA: If Nancy Grace committed Seppuku on live TV, that would be awesome.
It’s the least she can do. :mad:
ETA: You know what? I wish that disgraced politicians and news media critters were required to commit seppuku when they were found to be intentionally deceiving and wrong. Casket makers’ business would bloom and we’d do without Tarantino. It’s win-win!
Well, the “not a member of the family” thing is interesting. I always thought that there was a good possibility that the older brother did it, and that the parents were involved in the cover-up. I’m glad to know that wasn’t the case.
A classic case of rode(nt) rage…good luck!
I did not post this here…it was in a thread about obliterating some critters. What’s up with that?
Are kids raped and killed by strangers more often than by family members?
The Ramseys aren’t even a regular family, either. They’re creepy in the way that the first 45 minutes of a horror flick are. Murdered kids are almost never killed by strangers. Highly publicized murders with a mysterious, unknown third party involved in the kidnapping and murder of a child had always turned out to be committed by a family member, before. How can you blame people for suspecting the Ramseys? Hell, I STILL suspect them.
Always? :dubious: That’s quite a Lindy Hop you’re making there.
Best Lindbergh Baby reference ever! …umm, not that I think the Lindbergh baby was raped.
Here’s a newsflash- this also vindicates a controversial move by Pat Robertson. He had them on a few years ago to talk about their book. He caught flack for that, and spoke the next day on The 700 Club about how this couple had suffered an awful tragedy, been publically lambasted by the media & various officials, had never faced any legal charges, and were just being treated horribly.
You’ve just proven my point.
YOU. DON’T. KNOW. The. RAMSEYS.
You don’t know a damn thing about them, except what you’ve seen here and there on TV. Maybe they’re killers (but the evidence now suggests pretty strongly that they’re not), maybe they’re just weirdoes, or maybe they’re decent people that you’ve assumed the worst of for no good reason.
When DNA evidence comes in, the smart thing to do is reconsider your previous beliefs- not to double down and say, “Screw the evidence- there’s something creepy about them, so they must be guilty!”
Count me amoung those who think the Ramseys should have been investigated given that parents are often involved.
Now it is true that investigators seemed not to pursue other possibilities.
Brian
I apologize if this seems to be thread shitting - it’s really not intended to be. But, I never understood what was so special about this murder. Yes, someone did kill a cute little white girl, but that was, what?, 12 years ago?
If her parents haven’t been convicted of her murder in 12 years, I think it’s safe to say that they’re innocent or they got away with it. Why are they still doing DNA investigations?
This has got to be the longest running case of RO in the history of RO.
Why shouldn’t they? DNA technology is always evolving and there’s always a chance new evidence can come to light, as we’ve just seen. Or they’ll come up with a DNA match in the ever-growing criminal database.
In the beginning it was a high-profile case because 1) she was a cute white girl, and 2) her parents were rich. Throw in the whole beauty pageant thing and you have media gold. Of course it doesn’t make her more “special” than any other child murder or kidnapping, but it was inevitable that the media would love it.
It’s the bizarre circumstances of the murder, the subsequent botched investigation, and the fact that it’s still unsolved which keep it interesting, to me anyway.
Don’t be so sure that this is true or the final word. The Boulder DA has latched on to a theory by a controversial investigator who had little to do with the actual investigation, and has been trying to let the Ramsey’s off the hook since she took office. Remember John Mark Carr? She has been an embarrasment to the Boulder community and she is about to step down due to term limits (not that she’d win anyway). This is, IMO, just an attempt to put a victory on her slate that lacks much in the way of accomplishments.
She is also the DA that threw the kitchen sink at the U of Colorado football program, resulting in the conviction of [del]multitudes[/del] [del]numerous[/del] [del]several[/del] [del]one[/del] nobody.
This “touch DNA” only revealed that someone unknown at one time touched J-B’s long underwear. Interesting that it didn’t show any indication that anyone in the family ever did. Did the unknown perpetrator dress J-B as well as kill her? This DNA also failed to match any recovered in the house, on the murder weapon, on the ranson note (remember that?), etc.
Color me hugely skeptical on this “revelation”.
This is incorrect. The touch DNA matched DNA, mingled with the victims blood recovered from the inside of the victim’s panties. This DNA does not match anyone in the family. Therefore it wasn’t them. There’s no way around it. The killer was not one of the parents.
I thought I had read somewhere a while back that the DNA evidence on the clothing was not relevant because (to test out the theory) DNA had been found on store-bought clothing, and that it was possible that the DNA might have been left behind as far back as the manufacturing process in whatever Third World country made it.