Parents kicking their kids out at 18?

There was this one story of a rebellious teenage boy to his single Mom"I so cant wait till I’m 18 and out of here so you cant boss me around anymore". To that his Mom said “Sounds good. I cant wait to start spending your college fund. I think I’ll start with a trip to Europe”.

But in reality I think parents should make it clear of expectations when the kid turns 18. Just putting their stuff out on the doorstep and locking them out one day isnt so cool. as the above said, the world can be a dangerous place.

Plus remember that same kid will someday be picking out your nursing home.

My son left home a few months before turning 18, to move in with his baby-mama and her mama. I think he’d have left us soon in any case. Things were…tense.

Now we have two 24 year olds at home, neither of them ready to go. Things are…tense.

I’m almost 24 & I still live at home, probably for at least another year or two. BUT, I contribute to rent/groceries & I’m paying for my own college, so it works out.

My father was kicked out by his stepdad when he turned 18. He’s told me that such an action was commonplace back then (mid-70s) and that he would’ve moved out anyway if he hadn’t been evicted. Still, that all seems so damn harsh to my millenial sensibilities.

YMMV, obviously.

In ye olde days I left at 18 as did many others. But in ye older days kids didn’t just move out of parents homes unless it was to go to school, or in the military, or to take a job far away. What’s odd now is kids going off to school and then coming back home, and staying. It makes economic sense, but there was no way I could have kept living in my parents house.

I don’t understand kicking an 18 year old out on their birthday, especially if they are still in high school.
Even if they have graduated where are they going to go? They can’t rent anything until they are 18 and I don’t know of anyplace that will rent the same day. If they have the money they could go to a motel, or if they have a car they can sleep in their car, until they get something together for themselves.

Moving out takes some plans, getting kicked out on your birthday doesn’t leave much time to gt it together.

I had a coworker who absolutely refused to consider her son moving out - EVER!! OK, maybe that’s a bit of an exaggeration, but her son was a year or so older than my daughter, and while I was discussing the things we were doing to prepare our teen to live as an independent adult, my whack-a-doodle coworker was doing everything she could to make her baby eternally dependent.

I found it interesting when I heard that he finally moved out - about about 800 miles away from Mom…

some people still think it’s 1960 and once your kid is 18 he can just go down to the factory and start earning a living wage right away.

Hindsight is 20/20.

My daughter and son are 28 and 24 respectively and did poorly in community college because of lack of effort. My daughter persevered with school across the years and is in her last 2 semesters of college and has probably taken over 200 credits all told and has several dropped semesters where she just stopped doing her schoolwork and had to take entire semesters over, but for the last few years has been performing and I’m hoping there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have invested many, many thousands of dollars into supporting her in this effort.

My son was addicted (literally not metaphorically) to gaming for several years from ages 16-21-22 and finally broke the cycle about two years ago and is now an asst. manager for Chipotles, working hard and doing fairly well.

My ex gives them room and board and my son pays about $ 500 a month in rent to her. I pay for their cell phones, dental appts, and emergency cash needs, car repairs and a litany or other stuff. In fairness my son has not tapped me for any cash for well over a year now, but my daughter is still in constant need. My daughter never has much money to begin with and never has savings as it goes to “expenses” like out of town concerts and $120 hair coloring appts. etc. etc.

With respect to my daughter I love her, and she is quite intelligent, but she is not all that mature and she was booted at 18 it could have gone both ways. Either she would have stopped the immature shit and got on with life or … what … lived under a bridge, homeless shelter or what? My daughter makes impulsive and awful personal decisions to this day, and still has the emotional maturity of a teenager. I have lived in terror that she will go off the rails given what I and her mother have invested in keeping her going. I am absolutely an enabler of her un-focused behavior over the past decade but (and this is terrible to admit) I have almost no faith that she would swim if she had been tossed into the deep end at 18 without support. Maybe it would have happened, but I easily see her taking the lowest effort path and winding up in very dark and dangerous place with low lifes. So that’s on me.

Re my son. His being parked in front of a PC (enabled in this by my ex’s acquiescence) from 16-22 was less expensive than my daughter’s up and down college adventures. He is an Eagle Scout which was a major undertaking we worked on together and if put into a structured environment can and will perform. He has saved up $ 10000 in stock so far and I’m hoping he can continue to move forward. If he had gotten tossed at 18 he might had had a better outcome than my daughter but he was hardcore addicted to Warcraft and lost several jobs, girlfriends and a lot of time to that rabbit hole.

Neither of my kids at 18 was the archtypical 1960’s 18 year old with a history of responsible small jobs behind them. Grunt work delivery, landscaping, cleaning, grocery bagging, housekeeping, and retail etc. jobs like that are incredibly hard for under 18 teenagers to get these days and frankly most are taken up by low skill adults and immigrants. The old trope of kids working steadily from 13 to 18 in small odd jobs is not a reality in much of the US outside of rural areas. For a lot of kids these days their life/job experience history at 18 is high school and some housework.

So would they survive if tossed at 18? Maybe, but the bottom line is that it was not a risk my ex and I were willing to take given what we saw in front of us and in fairness we were not tossed at 18. Our parents assisted us with college and life expenses into our early 20’s. Were we going to say “no” to our kids?

I left home for good at 18. I had been financially independent since I was 16 because I worked nearly full-time in high school. I bought my own truck, clothes and food, came and went as I pleased and usually only came home to sleep after everyone else was already asleep. After high school, I got a full scholarship to college a few hundred miles away, worked for spending money during the school year and a lot more during the summer to pay for a sublet and that was that. It wasn’t that hard to pull off. This was in 1991, not 1941 BTW.

I kicked myself out at 17. Went away to college and never went back. Life with the 'rents wasn’t terrible, it was just boring as hell. Had no use for them as I was on a different track than everyone else in my family. One of the best decisions I ever made.

My husband left his moms house on his 18th birthday because he chose to. Said he couldn’t wait to get out on his own.

Some of my daughter’s friends were booted either at 18 (if not in school) or upon graduation. For those who did not continue with college, all have jobs and are sharing apartments with others. Most have children of their own, which doesn’t help. Those who are in school - all but one went to schools in other states and all have pretty much written off their families.

I gave my daughter a choice - school or a FT job and she could stay here. She went to school and is now working FT. She contributes to the bills very well. At this point, she can’t afford to move out. I will admit, I would love for her to leave the nest, but for both of us, it’s better if she stays here for now.

I don’t get that. If I had kids, and expected them to be out at or shortly after 18/19, would I not be preparing them? Would I not talk to them about university, jobs, how to rent an apartment, how to budget, shop for groceries, and so on? I wouldn’t just boot them out, without teaching them the skills they’ll need to live on their own.

Or maybe the kids just weren’t listening!

God, I hope they did never come back.

Especially when he was old or sick or lonely…

Well, they were moving 300 miles away, so…

It was never considered that I would not go to college and live in the dorms. It was discussed as “when”, not “if”. My parents stayed in the town where we’d lived for the past six years until I went to college and then they moved back to their hometown. All of my friends were going to be living at home, working part time, and going to the local community college. I’m not sure what the option would have been becuase I was more than excited to be living in a different town with new people and no direct supervision.

Late 70’s, most of my classmates had the deal that they could live at home and go to school or live at home and pay rent. Or if they were farm kids, they could live at home and earn a small salary. Most of the females were expected to get a job after a couple of years of community college which they’d quit after they started having babies and take up again in a few years. My parents most definitely did NOT want me following that pattern.

I am guessing both sides probably share in the blame.

Left for military school the summer after high school at 18, and only came back after that for short stays a week or so.

When I was about 12, my parents sat me down and informed me in no uncertain terms that when I hit 18, I had three choices:

  1. Go to college (which I was expected to organize payment for through my efforts, they would “help if they could”, but considerable discussion about scholarships and loans was also had). This was my parents’ strongly preferred option.

  2. Join the armed service of my choice.

  3. Begin paying $500 per month rent beginning June 1, 1993 (the first month following my expected high school graduation date). Failure to pay this rent would result in the locks being changed and me being officially on my own, ready or not.

This was the initial conversation. From that point forward, my parents incorporated the notion that one day I would be handling things on my own without guidance from them in every possible way they could. Protest about chores? “You’ll have to do this for yourself soon enough - might as well learn now.” Broke and wanted a CD or a treat or new book? “How are you planning to pay for that? Someday you’ll have to pay all your own bills.”

Conversations about what I intended to do with myself once I turned 18 started happening - whether or not I wanted them to - routinely and frequently. It’s pretty clear in retrospect that my parents were as much trying to help me figure out what I wanted to do as they were helping me plan how to accomplish it.

I know for a fact that my brother had a functionally identical conversation with them when he was about 12 - I was there. Feeling slightly smug because I - like a dipshit - thought that this meant their attention on future planning would now be split and I would hear less about it. God, was I wrong about that. The older I got, the larger a portion of my interaction with my parents turned into a discussion of how I intended to manage my future. (It turns out this topic of conversation was basically a bell curve, peaking about the time I graduated from high school.) It was the same deal with my brother.

Me? I selected Option 1 with a quickness, busted my ass in high school to earn scholarship dollars and build savings, and ultimately had about 80% of my undergraduate college education planned and payment arranged (mostly scholarship money) by Christmas break in my senior year.

My brother attempted to select “none of the above” through the strategy of avoiding the conversation as much as possible and being as vague as possible when my parents cornered him. As a result, on June 1, 1994 (the first day of the month after his high school graduation), having still not made a call on his future plans, my mom woke him up at 7:00 in the morning and said “Okay, I’ll take that 500 bucks now. If I don’t have it in my hand by June 5, we’re changing the locks. I already called the locksmith and made an appointment.” I remain certain she’d have done it. She wouldn’t have been happy about it, but my brother needed a pretty firm kick to get him launched out of the nest and she was well-aware of that.

He did, in fact, panic like a mofo. My mother, however, had already anticipated both his attempt to be a lazy bastard about this, and calculated his probable ultimate decision, and she and the guidance counselor at our high school had some last minute options available for him when he called the counselor in a freaking panic on June 4. He ended up in a tiny random community college (who accepted him as a late admission) and racked up more student debt than he otherwise might have, but he also ultimately went with Option 1. He admits these days that if my mom hadn’t taken that tactic with him, it is entirely possible he would still be living in their basement working part-time at the hardware store for beer money to this very day.

At no point with either of us did my parents ever let up on the theme of “you’ll have to do this on your own at some point” from the date of the initial conversation until the day we actually left home for college. Which is a fact that I remain deeply grateful for - and my gratefulness dates from my first week of college, when I realized that I already had basically a full suite of tools available to be a freaking adult and a goodly number of my classmates had no such thing. By the time we graduated from high school, my parents had carefully made sure that we had a baseline level of knowledge to function as adults (basic budgeting and accounting, basic cooking, cleaning, mending, at least some work experience, basic child care, basic appliance maintenance, scheduling, etc.) and at least some practical experience to go with it.

I really can’t condone literally kicking someone out at 18/the day after high school unless you’ve gone through the motions of teaching them to be self-sufficient since they were 12 like Aangelica’s parents did. If you’ve done that, you’ve done your due diligence. Thumbs up to that. But I get a sneaking suspicion that a fair amount of parents out there who take the “I just want you gone” approach aren’t exactly living up to that expectation. Sometimes I wonder just how many terrible parents really are out there, statistically, and not by my anecdotal experience.

I bet she never broke curfew again!

Regards,
Shodan