Good gawd dude, it’s the weekend. 5x weekend at that. Expect to be frustrated.
The stock market.
According to other news reports about this incident (which occurred more than one week ago), they found 8 AK47 assault rifles in this car as well as TNT and detonators. The suspect has remained silent since and he hasn’t hired a lawyer.
In the last couple of months, hundreds of thousands of individuals have entered Germany without any documentation and many haven’t even been processed in at all.
Slight disconnection between 1st and 2nd para: tbf, the refugees coming from Syria aren’t generally driving to Germany.
The greatest solidarity with our French brothers and sisters. It is sad the sickness that is the DAESH tendency exists and it must be combatted physically and intellectually, in solidarity with the community and not against it. I am confident in the DGSI will be fully motivated and deployed.
Not all the way from Syria. The man they arrested is believed to be from Montenegro. The point is that hundreds of thousands individuals whose background isn’t known, the majority of them young men (and no, I’m not digging up the cites), have entered the country and nobody is keeping track.
Germans should just fire up the ovens.
President Assad predicted years ago that terrorists will spread to Europe through illegal immigration and now the chickens came home to roost.
Kaboom.
You win the thread.
You planning a run for high political office anytime soon?
Well, it’s now starting to look like the hostage situation was choice #2 and they intended to slaughter the crowd regardless then kill themselves, and they made some progress towards that slaughter before blowing their suicide vests.
IMHO, one of the big questions now is who the terrorists are and where they came from. They could be “home grown” terrorists, i. e. disgruntled French citizens (like in the Charlie Hebdo incident). Or they could be foreigners who have infiltrated the country fairly recently by taking advantage of the unguarded borders. If that’s the case, there is indeed a full scale war going on and the whole European security policy is put into question.
Not one of the various, multiple ways to interpret this comment are appropriate to this forum.
Knock it off.
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There’s a related term/phrase:
Just in case anybody’s wondering (I highly doubt it, but eh) : I’m fine, so are my peoples.
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Don’t forget the French Foreign Legion, which while comparatively small, has a well deserved reputation for kicking ass.
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Actually, they have a deserved reputation for being sent to shitty places with zero support and fighting hopeless last stands. But they seem OK with that and even proud of the many times they left the field with 98% casualties, so there’s a vicious circle going on there 
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Does Paris not have “safe zones” in their colleges, like the US does, where people could evacuate in case of emergencies?
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Not really. Colleges within the capital are locked up tight around 21:00, and besides I’m thinking that when people with grenades and kamikaze belts seek large clusters of people to randomly murder, the last thing you want people to do is congregate in larger clusters.
Beyond that, the advice of the government was “go home, stay there, calm down”. Which, for me at least, was complicated by the fact that the police shut down the subway I was supposed to ride home :).
Why?
The response to an attack on a population is generally “get the bad guys”, not capitulation. Why do you think the French are any different from anyone else? Bad ethnic jokes?
ISIS doesn’t want “freedom from the west”, they want to own the world and remake it in their own image.
It’s sad people don’t understand that motivation.
I’m voting for both of those choices in your case. Either that, or you’re very young.
Yes.
ISIS wants war. If their victims don’t retaliate they’ll just keep killing. If their victims do retaliate there will be more killing. ISIS doesn’t believe in live and let live, they believe everyone should be like them or dead.
First of all, anyone who actually kills people is, in fact, a “legitimate threat”.
Second - groups like Charlie Hebdo did, indeed, mock these sorts of folks. The reaction was to kill the people making fun of the bad guys. Since I presume you don’t remember that event here’s a wiki on it.
Mind you, I fully support mocking terrorists but don’t have the illusion it’s a risk-free activity and that the people being mocked aren’t “legitimate threats”.
Right… that’s why no one outside India heard about the 2008 Mumbai attacks… oh, wait, that was front-page news for days.
100+ people in Paris didn’t lose money, they lost their lives. I don’t care about 200 points on the stock market, and neither do other intelligent people who realize the stock market is going to go back up in a few days but not one of those dead people are going to come back to life.
Because there are people out there who will walk into a restaurant or concert venue and simply kill people for being there. The more places in the world such people show up the more people around the world fear these guys are going to come to their town and kill them or their neighbors.
Why do you have a problem comprehending that?
How about you try looking up words you don’t know the meaning of? It’s real simple. You go to a search engine like Google, type in the word, and a definition is handed to you. It’s even simpler than when I was your age, when we actually had to pull a book made of paper off a shelf, a type of book called a “dictionary”, and laboriously turn pages until we found the word in question and it’s definition.
We do care - there have been several requests on this board asking French, especially Parisian, Dopers to check in and tell us they’re OK.
We’re glad to hear you’re OK - how did you deal with the transportation problem? Did you eventually get home, or did you have to crash elsewhere?
After being so ineffective during the 1990s Balkans wars, the European Union slowly ramped up its own collective security mechanisms. Just a couple years ago, they achieved the objective of having several batallions ready for combat, as I understand it.
Of course these are composed of country-specific soldiers, and of course they wouldn’t/couldn’t do much except as part of a larger effort (mainly NATO-led, I guess), but has this come up in discussions as a possible tool in the push-back effort?
I was wondering. clairobscur has also posted. You are the only two I’m certain are French. I’m glad you’re both OK.
Yeah, they had one fight where the only survivor was a wooden hand.
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Perhaps you could offer your sage advice to the people at Charlie Hebdo, the Paris-based weekly satirical publication.
Broomstick beat me to it, darn me for making sure my link worked :smack:
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/isis-claims-responsibility-paris-attacks/npNCB/
This is also reported by France Info (national news radio in France).
Assuming that this attack was in fact perpetrated by ISIS, is the right response more French/Western involvement in fighting ISIS directly, or less?
The argument for more is that if ISIS is ruthlessly beaten down on its own turf to a small rump, if not completely eradicated, it will lose the ability to inspire and/or perpetrate attacks like the ones in Paris.
The argument for less is that Western engagement against ISIS has been a major recruiting boon for them; they don’t seem to have trouble replenishing their ranks as we pick them off; and going after ISIS directly risks provoking them into committing terrorist attacks.
It’s unclear what Hollande plans to do, but I would not be surprised if the response includes a broader military role in Syria/Iraq. That strikes me as a very bad idea. It seems to me the right response to these attacks would include a combination of the following:
- Better policing and more resources devoted to gathering and sharing intelligence
- Resisting the urge to demonize Muslims generically
- Reducing the West’s direct military engagement in the Middle East
- Accepting the fact that, like mass shootings, these events cannot be entirely prevented but their frequency can be reduced via the measures above