Part of the Dems problem is a propaganda asymmetry

I agree; the Republicans fight dirty, the Democrats don’t. Which is a problem because if only one side fights dirty they have an advantage. The Democrats keep trying to play chess while the Republicans are playing “street thug with a baseball bat”.

One thing he mentions that really hit home with me was Hillary’s deplorables comment vs Trump’s “anyone who votes for Democrats is crazy” comment.

Hillary was speaking of half of Trump’s base. Trump was speaking of all Democrats. She gets attacked relentlessly over the deplorable comment and Trump gets no pushback at all about the “crazy” comment.

It can’t be this lopsided forever.

You’re right. The country will collapse before it gets better.

Yep. After they pulled a fast one to stop Obama from nominating a Supreme Court Justice, I said the new rule was, “Naked exercises of power are the new norm.” The GOP changed the rules, but the Democrats kept trying to play as if that hadn’t happened.

You may not like the new rule, and you might even be planning to change it back as soon as you have the ability to do that, but in the short term, playing the game by the current rules is just a pragmatic necessity.

If they ever get back into power, the Democrats need to start understanding this.

Agree completely w your sentiment here.

But I’d rearrange the cause and effect parts of your statement to something more like:

The Democrats need to start understanding this if they ever expect to have any hope of getting back into power.

Just wanted to cross-post this here:

Correct- “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
So she was saying that racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and Islamophobic people are deplorable. Which is absolutely true.

Will read the rest of the thread but here is a fun tool to create our own.
https://makeameme.org/memegenerator/angry-obama

Made my own
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54643&start=24435

Last post here …let me know you can see it.
Useful agitprop tool and KISS simple.

You can use any of these images with your own captions
https://makeameme.org/newest/

maybe because MAGA comes across as more “talking to/for you” as opposed to “talking at you” (liberal 'we know what’s good for you/ what you should do")

recall that Trump got more Black and Latin votes than 2016