I got the impression that Homestead II was an established colony; the passengers were more like migrants from the UK to Australia in the 20th century than colonists sailing to Virginia in the 17th century. That Aurora was able to purchase a round trip ticket in the first place implies that the Homestead II has hibernation facilities and that the ship is expected to return to Earth (presumably with few if any passengers) after a layover.
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I agree calling him a psychopath is too much. That said, I wish the movie had done a better job of conveying his breakdown due to isolation. Instead that section was mostly played for laughs.
I also would have preferred they remove the creepy pre-stalking part. Maybe show that as he declined did something that triggered a random pod to open. That he was desperate for any companionship and not hers specifically.
Hard to believe a ship that sophisticated could go all dumb, and like others, I’ll just fanwank that the ship has artificial gravity and the spin is just cosmetic. It’s like in the last Star Trek movie they had that cool looking space station with rings, but they obviously had artificial gravity.
Weird they did the first class, second class thing, and of course the woman was “Gold Class.” Lady and the tramp, I guess. And you can drink all the booze you want, but can’t get a latte?
No, it wasn’t a rape culture film. God, society has gotten so whiny you pretty just have to make the movie you want and ignore the complaining, or make a safe movie so politically correct it bombs.
Personally, I think I could just hang out with the bartender and grow a garden to keep myself busy. I’d be afraid of anyone I woke up going all Lord of the Flies or something. If I did wake people up, I’d say “tough shit” to the morality of it. I’m screwed, someone else can be screwed with me, and as it turned out, 5000 people would have died if Jim didn’t have a little help.
I’m really disturbed by all the people that wanted Jim to be a psycho serial murderer. He was just a fundamentally good guy, who did something really bad in his weakness, -'d she saw something in him and fell in love. Why can’t there be a happy ending?
It feels like people want edge for the sake of it.
Saw it last night and quite liked it. Waking up Aurora was of course terrible and despicable – and completely understandable. After a year of being alone surrounded by 5,000 sleeping people, and with the prospect of spending the rest of my life that way, who knows how long it would have taken me to do the same thing. I had some of the same science questions (not so much as about the physics of the journey, but how the artificial gravity worked and why the ship would stop spinning) but they didn’t take me out of the story. Pratt was his usual goofy/charming self and Lawrence was excellent, as usual - the scene where she realizes what Jim did is heart-wrenching and made even me feel like I was going to throw up as she comes to understand her predicament.
When the crew member (Gus?) woke up, I thought it was going to be revealed that Aurora had sabotaged his sleeping tube so that she wouldn’t be alone with Jim for the rest of her life. It turned out to be a pretty luck break for both of them (but not so much, alas, for Gus).
The Andy Garcia cameo also had me scratching my head, but I like the Garden of Eden that Jim & Aurora had built on the main promenade.
Lawrence was amazing. Everything after the reveal, the emotion really grabbed me. Chris on the other hand was ok, but tended to shade into “goofy”. I mean, at this point he’s like the actor equivalent of a golden retriever, and the story needed him to be redeemable, but he just lacked a certain something to sell the loneliness and desperation.
Did you sleep during the movie? She wasn’t going there as a colonist. She had a round trip ticket intending to go there as a journalist writing about the experience then return to Earth. And Jim awakening her was not a possibility she had signed on for. Jim hadn’t even signed on for the possibility of being awakened early. The only good thing about the movie I suppose is that Jim didn’t survive to victimize the rest of the colony population.
Because what he did was not the action of a fundamentally good guy. He was Ariel Castor in outer space. I find it very disturbing that anyone considers him a fundamentally good guy.
Not really, Jim would have died also if he hadn’t done something. He had also already done something absolutely despicable. At best, Jim’s action was an attempt at atonement, not a sacrifice.
Technically speaking, Only a small percentage of people succumb to Stockholm Syndrome. I think it was 14%. The remainder of prisoners continue to hate their captors.
Marriages and arranged marriages both seem to have about a 50% chance of success/failure.
So really, any sort of pairing, of any level of force, isn’t all that likely to end in love and peace.
I find it very disturbing that people are painting him to be some kind of sick pervert. I guess these are the people that have nothing better to do with their lives than find things to be offended by.
She had already fallen for him when she found out what he did. She didn’t justify a captor’s actions and feel sympathy, she was justifiable enraged by him so much she almost took a pipe to his head and there was a long period where they’d even gone through arranging “custody” of the bartender droid. I took this entire drama to be about his redemption and her forgiveness and their happily ever after. It’s a mix of a few standard fairy tales.
The Beast wasn’t a psychopath either and his true nature was brought out by Belle.
I can understand why people would be mad at what he did. He did essentially kidnap and in a sense condemn her to death (I also understand he was not in his right mind when he did so and the circumstances were extenuating but he did do it). I was thinking that the way the movie would redeem him would be having him die but in the process find away to put her back to sleep. Then he survived, but did find a way to put her back to sleep. When she refused I thought maybe he would drug her and put her under or something but then I realized that would be taking away her choice again. He took it away waking her up; he couldn’t do it again to put her to sleep.