A lot of people have pointed out the story would have been a lot stronger if they had edited it into a non-linear narrative.
Start with Aurora waking up. Have her meet Jim. Have Jim explain he was accidentally awakened also. Have them fall in love. And then reveal that Jim woke Aurora up.
Now do what was the original first part of the movie as a flashback. Show Jim waking up and trying to fix his pod. Show him slowly going crazy from the isolation. Then show him waking up Aurora, which would now be known to the audience.
Then put the movie back into its straight line narrative and finish the rest of the story.
So many people have suggested this, it wouldn’t surprise me to see it get released as a “special edition”.
She didn’t even care about being on Mars. She was going to hang around for a year then go back to earth again. Her missing out is not really that big a deal, she still lived to old age, even if it was a lonely journey.
Also why weren’t there any spare pods? It makes no sense.
it was not a plot hole, they did not have the ability to access it until the crew member woke up from his own pod error, it was his crew key that opened up the possibility.
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yes it is the one thing in the film one has to ignore deliberately, although the explanation of a hidden disregard of the company for the failures or perhaps a real excess of the confidence (à la Titanic thinking, so not completely unrealistic)
Did I? Maybe it wasn’t Mars, that part didn’t seem important, whatever, the point is she had no real direction in her life, she was just going to the planet for a lark.
The statement in the film for the suspension pods was simply there was other technology, procedures to suspend, things not included in the pods.
The medical doctor pod is clearly a unit that has medical functions and the major medical interventions, and taking the high risk medical action with the doctor or the crew member authorization. This is a capacity clearly far beyond the suspension pods.
The assumption you are clearly making is that the medical pod = the ordinary pods.
There is no basis for this.
It is already clear that the medical pod has the technology and medical intervention capacity well beyond the ordinary pods.
There is no in-movie reason to think that the medical pod should not have the technology equivalent of whatever - never defined - processes that suspended them.
Indeed a medical doctor intervention pod seems quite logical as being the vehicle for a suspension.
Nobody expects you to remember the name of the planet, but calling it “Mars” is like confusing a long haul flight to London with walking next door to your neighbour’s house in Australia.
I saw the movie recently as well and quite liked it. I thought his actions were both despicable and understandable at the same time. The ending was too “Hollywood”, but a good story all the same.
I’m not sure what assumption you are making, but I don’t see a plot hole. When they were discussing their ability to re-enter hibernation, the only pods available were the passenger pods which were not fitted with tech capable of inducing hibernation. It was only later that it became possible to access the medical pod enough to discover that it did have this ability. Until the crew member woke up, the statement that they didn’t have the required tech to enter hibernation was true.
Mistaking it for the planet **Mars **is just … there are not words. The whole point of the movies was a centuries long interstellar travel, right now we can send probes to the planet Mars in mere months, how on earth can you mistake this?
Exactly.
and the idea given by confusing the planet objective with a planet in the solar system (where the round trip idea is not a problem) with a planet centuries of half light speed travel away, this confused badly any point he made.
Then you insistence on the idea of the plot hole has absolutely no sense to it.
You do, apparently, because the sin of getting it wrong seems to be so damned irritating for you.
Okay, here’s the deal. My brother in law was talking about the movie, and he said it was Mars, and though that didn’t quite jibe in my head, I assumed he was right as he’d only watched it a few days ago. I guess I should’ve checked.
My point wasn’t about the long journey, but that she didn’t want to hang around and was just going to head back a year later anyway, making her reason to be so upset like her life was over an overreaction (she lived for several more decades). And the point of the movie was the ethics on deciding to awaken the other passenger. As far as I can tell, the long journey is just the macguffin, i.e. the story element to hang the plot on, and the sci fi details of it aren’t all that crucial. Especially since the adventure element was another "push the button outside the spaceship near the big chomping teeth’ clichés. That tells you all you need to know about the kind of “science fiction” we’re working with here.
the question was not the name, it was the idea of “inside the solar system” versus “hundreds of light years away and centuries of travel.” Not remembering the name is not important. Confusing something inside of the solar system
the time of travel is in fact fundamental to the problem. If they were inside of the solar system none of the problems posed in the film even exist - the journey time, the idea she was abandoning a life and all of her friends and her family, to be long dead by the time she returns - even exist at all. It was not a “macguffin”, it is the fundamental point!
Her reason to be upset was not at all in this circumstance an overreaction - the whole purpose of her travel was to be famous in writing something special based on the experience and return to fame - at the total sacrifice of all of the human connections she had on the Earth.
This problem does not exist at all if the trip is not of the interstellar distance with the relativity effects!
Inside the solar system it is a triviality. You do not seem to have at all understood the problem of the interstellar travel at all or the distances.
He tells her you need special equipment to place someone in hibernation, he says ‘remember the facility where they put us under, all the procedures we went through?’
Later, when she wants to go through the cargo manifest he says we’re not gonna find a whole hibernation facility-in-a-box.
Then, with a command bracelet they find that the med pod which is smaller than the sleep pods, and has a host of other functions has a sub-routine that’s just as good.
Well, that’s convenient. You guys say it didn’t pull you out of the movie a little bit, well and good, but it did me.