about ten years ago i passed a slug–ish MN Trooper on an expressway. he had about 20 sheep lined up behind him looking for free deputy badges. i overlook him at only 3-4 mph over the limit and was followed then by almost everyone. I had it planned that i was going to encourage him to issuse himself a citation for not going with the flow. Well i got no responce from him at all, so i thought.
About a year later i had to get a new insurance carrier due to the agency i was with folded and the newagent called me to explain why i had a nasty-gram on my driving record without a citation or warning. i don’t remember exactly what it was called but it was a non issued warning per say. anyway the new agent had never heard of anything like that and there was nothing else on my record so he just ignored it.
I originally heard it as:
Q: What’s the difference between a BMW and a moose?
A: A moose’s asshole is on its outside.
The version I heard the first time was a Mercedes and a dog with the punchline of: “The dick is inside the Mercedes.”
Not if you’re in Montana and you can convince a judge that it’s “reasonable and prudent”.
I pass cops all the time, but I only go 5mph over the speed limit. I’ve never been pulled over for it.
A friend of mine got an expensive ticket because he didn’t slow down and move over when he saw a cop stopped behind another vehicle. Cop had lights flashing, and all, it was totally my friends fault IMO. Anyhow friend got the ticket in the mail, so he threw it out and forgot about it until he tried to renew his license. The very expensive ticket was much more expensive after the late penalties were applied. He also learned that he got dinged with his insurance because of the ticket and then not taking care of it. He paid over a grand because he couldn’t be bothered to slow down and move over.
No sympathy from me.
Some states have passed laws requiring people to slow down or change lanes when a police car is stopped on the highway. There’s been several cops hit just standing on the side of the road.
“Known to happen…” Hahaha, that’s a good one. Guess you’re not from L.A.
There’s a major road near my house where I routinely wind up behind a cop car driving 30 mph in a 35 zone. Invariably, some other car eventually passes him and BAM! on come the red lights.
Yes, the cop is lying if he really said that it’s illegal to pass a police car. Cops lie all the time, it’s part of their job. And if the OP’s friend fights the ticket, no doubt the cop will come up with even more lies, claiming that he was speeding recklessly or driving erratically. Who’s the judge gonna believe? Even if you have notarized statements from 50 eyewitnesses the judge is gonna side with the cop, because they are part of the scam. Bottom line, it’s just plain stupid to overtake a police car that isn’t parked at a donut shop – you’re just asking for trouble.
On the other hand, our state’s having a major budget crisis, so think of it as doing your part to aid the economy. I guess. :rolleyes:
Well, you wouldn’t be there long.
I vaguely recall hearing that cops sometimes drive on busy roads just to slow people down. Especially in areas that are known for accidents. If he’s driving just under the speed limit then most cars will line up behind him. The few dumb enough to pass can get picked off by a another car up ahead.
No cite, that’s just what I recall hearing years ago. Similar to just parking a empty patrol car in sight of the road. The intent is to get people slowed down and avoid accidents in dangerous areas.
Perhaps some of of Cops on the board can comment?
I once got a ticket for 60mph on a small bypass on my way home. The cop chewed me out pretty good and explained there were a couple intersections there that the locals used. Several had gotten hit trying to turn onto the bypass. That’s why that section was marked 35mph. Most of the bypass was 55mph at the time. Learned a lesson and really felt like a dummy. I can emphasis with the locals trying to turn with a light.
That should be without a light and I empathize with them. Years later they finally added a light to one of the intersections. Making it safer for everyone.
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I call bullshit.
First of all, unless one is going below the posted minimum speed or traveling in a passing only lane, “not going with the flow” is not a citable offense.
Second of all, written warnings do not go on your driving record in Minnesota.
And lastly, even if they did go on your record (they don’t) how in hell could an officer issue a warning without making a contact? How would he/she know who was driving the vehicle to issue the warning to?
Someones full of it.
The “reasonable and prudent” thing was repealed in Montana back in '99.
See, IME, if you’re driving down a lonely road at around 2am (or bar closing time) and you see a cop up ahead in the distance going about 10 or 15 miles under the limit, you better pass him.
Because if you don’t, they know you’re scared for some reason. And the only reason to be scared is if you been drinking or you got warrants out, (or something to that affect.)
I always figured it’s a tricky way to flush people out.
To be clear, I do not know the person. The post was on a page for people who live/lived in an area.
I absolutely love clueless stuff like this. It’s second only to soccer moms, bar sluts, and ass-crack plumbers I’ve pulled over lecturing me on on how to do my job, what I can and can’t, how to do my job, etc.. Hilarious!
Cops never use provocation? I was driving at 3 am-ish completely sober. A car came up behind me and rode my bumper for a while. I stuck to 45 mph, watching for deer and slowed further when a passing area came. The car chose not to pass, and got even closer.
I was in a “fuck-you funk” so I tapped my brakes, not caring whether the dick behind me hit me or not. He didn’t hit me but he did put his dash flasher on. He was a local cop and he was pissed off at barely missing hitting me. I calmly claimed that I saw a deer standing along the rode. He ran my license and let me go, but he was fuming.
What about this:
So, if I’m on a one lane road that’s got a 45mph speed limit and I’m driving 30 with 5 cars piled up behind me, am I breaking the law?
If I’m on a Milwaukee county freeway where the speed limit is 55 and the speed minimum is 45 (IIRC), cars are traveling about 60 or so and I’m crusing down the middle lane at 47 with people honking and flashing their lights and finally moving to other lanes to get around me, is that citable?
There’s always been the urban legend amongst teens that you can get a ticket for not keeping up with traffic even if the traffic is going well over the speed limit, but this seems to imply that you can get a ticket for impeding traffic even if you stay within the minimum and maximum. Also, I don’t know of any surface roads that have a minimum.
What I got from reading that is if someone wants to overtake you and they let you know it by honking for flashing their lights, you have to move over and let them.
Also, and I know this is an anomaly, there’s a freeway in (IIRC) Florida that’s going to start ticketing people for driving either 10mph under the posted limit or 10 mph under the posted minimum in the left lane. I don’t remember which one, but basically, it was to get people to start driving faster or getting out of the left lane.
Missed the edit, here’s the part that says you have to let them overtake you…
These are 2 different scenarios. Driving on roads with posted minimums requires different operation than those without posted minimums. Most of the DNZ’s had minimums of 40 (I don’t know know if any minimums are posted in Milwaukee county anymore. There aren’t any on 94 east/west to & from the lake all the way to/from Waukesha county) but for sake of argument lets say it’s 45. In your scenario, absent and other factors, there would be a violation of law…the drivers going up the ass of the guy going 47 in a 45 minimum lane. Following too closely is one of the most common traffic cites to write.
Not that I’m fond of people going too slow. I have a Jaguar and a Mustang GT and I have places to be!
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I call bullshit.
First of all, unless one is going below the posted minimum speed or traveling in a passing only lane, “not going with the flow” is not a citable offense.
Second of all, written warnings do not go on your driving record in Minnesota.
And lastly, even if they did go on your record (they don’t) how in hell could an officer issue a warning without making a contact? How would he/she know who was driving the vehicle to issue the warning to?
Someones full of it.
Call it what ever you want, but that is what the insurance man told me.
There was a Flag now that i recall and it was a short term flag meaning if i was run for anything within a time frame I believed it to mean there would certainly be a citation.
But again Call it what you will. 
Then it is your insurance guy that is full of shit. Did you actually see this warning on your record?
If the officer made no contact with you how could he put anything on your driving record? How would he even know who was driving the vehicle? Even if he assumed the owner of the vehicle was the driver, how would he run the driver without a DOB or DL#? Plates and driver records are usually not interconnected. What law in Minnesota allows for putting things on drivers records without any contact with the driver whatsoever?
Read your story from our point of view and tell us something doesn’t smell bad.