Why not? Most of the military planes (at least the staff planes) have roomier seats, no waits in crowded terminals or getting stuck behind some doofus at the security scanner who wants to argue about what s/he should be allowed to bring aboard, no fighting with terminal cab and commuter traffic at the commercial airport, no waiting for luggage at the carousel, etc.
Sounds “perky” to me.
Good points. But I suspect a Speaker of the House wouldn’t at least have to put up with crowded terminals and cabs. There are certainly good points about choosing that over the alternative. But I would suggest that a perk is a benefit you get without some kind of job-affecting reason. You work in a bakery, maybe you get to take bread home at the end of the day. It just helps you, it doesn’t affect your ability to do your job in such a big way. Getting a free drink for being in business class is a perk. OTOH, getting a flight that’s guaranteed to wait for you if you’re late and would be quicker to pack, fly, and unpack with? That’s actually helpful for your job. Taking a commercial flight? Eh, it’s likely more of a hassle. But the perks of taking a commercial flight i’d say are greater than the perks of taking a USAF plane… even if we include roomier seats. 
I’m not sure people understand what a G-III is really like. This is serious luxury right down to the woodwork. The interiors are all custom made. It comes with a crew of 2, which is not a bad ratio for 10 passengers. You’re not going to a terminal, you’re going to an FBO (fixed base operator). These companies are set up to cater to wealthy clients. You pull up to a waiting limo and you’re gone.
Wow, that interior picture IS impressive. Fair enough. I was picturing an actual combat plane, albeit a relatively tarted up one.
On preview I see that your misperception has been straightened out.
Carry on.
Keep in mind you were looking at the utility version used for hauling people. A private G-III would probably be closer to this. At this level of airplane they are all custom built. Kinda puts a damper on retirement when you lose the use of the company limo. You’d need a J-bar to pry me out of a G-III on the last day.
I’m not impresed by this new “that was my point all along”.
I already knew how modified the interior was, that was the first hint showing the idea of using the published normal specks to be misleading. So now the idea is to say it was a perk to Hastert so Pelosi should not use it, sorry, the enhanced communications and other security features justified their use, unless we are ready to say the enhanced features are unnecessary then the question would be why no Republican protested their use or abuse by the former speaker, and another question: so the security levels mentioned before to justify their use were exaggerated and only because now it is the democrats turn some Republicans are telling the truth?
So how then it is the fault of Pelosi that the perk has also other capabilities that will be useful in an emergency?
Magiver, you do know that bizjet interiors are all custom, details chosen by the customer, not stock from the factory, right? You have *no * knowledge of what interior USAF chose to install in its own, even though it’s a safe assumption it isn’t all economy-class airline seats.
How modified the interior was? What are you talking about? Seriously, I have no idea where you’re going with this. I’ve restored airplanes from the ground up and I’ve modified them. I understand the certification process. You can’t add a bracket to a radio stack without showing the calculations made for the bend in the sheet metal used. If you have a point, make it and back it up with numbers.
There is nothing you can do to the interior to change the specs of the aircraft. I gave the specs (from the Air Force) fully loaded of the lesser of the aircraft. It doesn’t matter if you fill it with Republicans, cans of Spam, or good intentions. All the relevant flight specs remain the same.
It’s a luxury jet and it’s a perk that was created by Republicans. How do not understand this? If you don’t question where your tax dollars go then who will? I’ve planned for my retirement but I’m probably older than you are so you’ll be footing the bill for my beer money. I’d like to think you’d be celebrating tax freedom day sometime before Christmas. Politicians are happy as clams to see us arguing over which luxury jet they get to fly in.
Irrelevant anyhow.
Now if you do want to make a thread on the last item be my guest, in the end all the points brought forward by the Republicans were not true.
Then you understand it’s a civilian procedure. Doesn’t apply to the military. The various branches each establish their own *qualification * (the military term) requirements for each system. The acceptance and maintenance standards for aircraft in the VIP fleet, those assigned to the 89th, are normally even stricter than for normal military aircraft.
Please do try saying something relevant to some point relevant to this discussion, will you?
I’d answer you but I don’t know what you’re trying to say. The stats I posted for the C-20 are from the Air Force. What are you disagreeing with? It’s Saturday night and I’ve got things to do so I’ll leave you to your thoughts. Have a nice day.
Putnam Emerges As GOP’s Top Aggressor
It’s nice to see Republicans so openly flaunt their lack of honor.
Hey. It’s their biggest selling point! Don’t you know about their following in the military?
Yeah, I bet they get lots of votes from the Iraqi vets at Walter Reed.
No comment on the manufactured political brouhaha, but I have to say, I bet that gold-plating the seat belts makes them extra effective in holding someone securely to the couch when the jet lawn-darts into the turf.
I’m amazed this thread has run so long – and also that the comic strip “Prickly City” got an entire week out of pretending there was some sort of scandal here.
You should see their latest - Carmen asks why she shouldn’t doubt man-made global warming. Winslow tells her it’s because if she does, the media will jump all over her. :rolleyes:
