Penn & Teller Fool Us - New Season

My guess on the Harry Keaton one:
The box has two “rooms”. The wall has the same colors as the backdrop on the stage. It looks like we can see through it, but we are looking at a divider in the box.
Allison reaches into the back room and feels the sponge or whatever, and then when the box is lifted we see the front room with the rock.
And I was wondering, for an illusion trick if Allison can see how it’s done from her perspective, is the “rules” that she keeps quiet about it and act like she doesn’t know?

You can see all the way through the box at several times, including when he picks it up and moves it around. It there’s a false chamber it’s incredibly well hidden.

My guess is that the items themselves are the trick. The first one is where Alison feels a sponge but then there is a rock. The sponge could be pulled into the rock somehow before the reveal. The second one has the cactus in a large planter, plenty of room to have a stuffed animal and then a hair brush on top when Alison has her hand in, then the cactus pops up out of the box for the reveal. The last one is tricky, I’ll look again, but I don’t think the glass of wine is shown to be real, the grapes and grass(?) she feels could be inside the glass in the end.

That’s pure guess work, but at least it’s a possibility.

Also, I assume Alison won’t intentionally reveal anything she notices, but I suspect in the Pirate trick the Red Bandit name was forced on here with a Dual Reality gimmick, maybe what Penn referred to, that would make it not much of a trick at all. But if it was really a random name I think the plate was made of steel and engraved behind his prop table, he picked it up when he put down his wanted posters, and then it was stuck to the gun with a strong magnet.

He spent a lot of time with the banter. I think was what he needed to select the card somehow under his jacket. Pulling his ‘Magic Wand’ out of his back pocket was an ideal way to have a mechanism send that card down his sleeve. Still seems complicated. I do wonder if the whole card selection and feed mechanism was in the table, or even the bottom of the Lego box.

It did look like Teller wasn’t ready to give up right away though. I saw he had his eyes on the guys arm in the Legos the whole time, even when he pulled out that bat and tried other misdirection moves.

As I write this the card selection mechanism in the table or the bottom of the box sounds much simpler and cleaner.

On the first watch I was baffled by Harry Keaton’s and Jandro’s acts. But I watched again and have theories:

Harry Keaton: I believe the box may have hidden flaps that come down when the front piece is inserted, so that a sort of shelf is formed inside the box. The item Alison feels is on the top, and the “real” item is on the bottom. So she reaches in and feels a sponge because a sponge is actually there on the shelf over the rock. The magician had ample opportunity to insert and switch items out on the top shelf, especially small concealable items like a sponge or a stuffed animal. It was clear that his left hand was doing plenty of work behind the box whenever he gestured or moved around. I suspect the potted cactus was a rubber collapsible, though he did a good job of making it look heavy. It’s also worth noting that when they said sponge, we automatically think of a full sized sponge as you might use to wash dishes. It could as easily have been a much smaller one. Likewise, the “stuffed animal” might have been a small piece of plush material that was easily concealed for the switch. The magician is the one who suggested “like a teddy bear?” and Alison eagerly went along with that description even though she might have been touching just a small ball of similar material.

Jandro: Since there were no face cards involved, that left 36 choices. He has them concealed and sorted by suit. By asking Teller if he wants this suit or that suit, he is able to eliminate each unneeded suit until he is left with only one suit of nine cards. He uses a lot of patter and jokes to give him time to go through the nine cards, presumably marked in a tactile way that makes it possible for him to find the selected card. The clay is not sealed on one end. When the clay covered box was brought out, it was clear that one end had been open and only roughly squeezed shut, not closed in a uniform or smooth way like the rest of the clay. So with the one end of the clay open, he can take the selected card, slide it into the box through a narrow gap at the seam of the box corner facing the open clay edge, and squeeze the clay end closed. The box did not have trap doors and was actually locked, but a gap small enough to slide a single card would not be immediately noticeable. P&T did not examine the box closely or look inspect the card for markings before awarding the prize.

You made this even simpler. He could have the entire deck of cards in his hand to start with, attached to a device in his sleeve, he selects the one card out of the deck, the rest of the deck goes up his sleeve. The clay and the box and the lock and the alarm are nothing, we know they were all open initially until he slides the card in.

I’m impressed by the size of the props. That big cactus wasn’t manipulated by slight of hand.

The wine would easily spill if manipulated. I wish the magician had taken a sip to prove their really was liquid in that glass.

I don’t know how he got that stuff in the box.

I considered the box was preloaded off stage, but the box isn’t big enough to hold all the props at one time.

I doubt a trick box with a mirror/divider would fool Penn & Teller. They didn’t even use their one guess.

Penn & Teller paper trick. Clear Monofilament line? It would require several already setup across the stage.

There were several times the paper moved vertically, straight up. Like it was being pulled. The lateral movements are harder to explain.

I am convinced clear line is at least part of the trick.

That’s all I got. :wink:

If that’s not it then I got nothin.

Several observations I had that have not been mentioned…

The magician seems to be making some sort of hand movements around the box each time…

As for the stuffed animal/brush/cactus…

The question… “Does Allyson see anything from behind that she does not comment on?” She clearly does not bother to look at the back of the box as she changes sides… So could not comment.

He clearly makes a move- and moves something between the box and the back of his suit- SOMETHING is visible- as he says… “you’re sure about this…?”

And then at this point… The CACTUS and it’s big square planter- seem so tall… Where would Allyson have had ROOM to reach down…

But the bottom of the planter/box is so BIG- and probably HOLLOW- it could have something INSIDE it- (the “teddy bear” and or “hair brush.”)

And during the “grapes and grass”/wine glass part… his hand is definitely behind the box doing SOMETHING- the box JIGGLES a LOT! (Just as he says, “take your hand out…”)

Still an amazing and entertaining trick…

Hangman trick

Perhaps a small hole that’s just big enough for the metal stands to drop through? Black paint provides a shadow of a larger hole.

Magician knows the edges of the hole. Maybe there’s a small mark. He positions his feet.

Trap doors slide open, the stands drop, and of course he doesn’t drop. Completely safe. Doesn’t make any difference what number is selected.

We don’t see a good shot directly above the gallows. Nice way to hide the dirty work.

Was it really this simple? It’s the showmanship that sells the illusion.

I like the simplicity of that solution.

Electronic locks, counter weights and other mechanical devices can fail. That’s a painful fall even if the rope is rigged to break.

Keep it simple and fool proof.

This is exactly my thought on this trick. He could easily have had 38 cards indexed inside the Lego box, and there was plenty enough time to locate the card, hide the rest, slide it into the box and squeeze the clay shut. I was very surprised they awarded the FU so quickly.

I vote for this solution as well. His hand was in that Lego box - and out of our sight - for an awfully long time. When you think about it there was no legit reason for his hand to be on the box at all.

As for the hangman trick, I was very underwhelmed. There was an entire behind-the-curtain area that we could not see. Anything could be going on back there. I imagine an assistant totally disabling both the rope and the trapdoor that corresponded with the number the performer was standing on.

And if you are about to claim this is vulnerable to human error and thus too dangerous, I would posit that the entire prop was designed so that there would never be a risk of harming the performer, even with malfunction or human error.
mmm

That’s a great point. The gallows were likely all rigged to break off under the weight of an actual person. I was rather unimpressed by that trick as well.

The hangman trick was super lame - I don’t even know what the point was supposed to be, as said there was plenty of opportunity for the apparatus to be manipulated behind the scenes - I’m also sure it was not actually dangerous in case anything went wrong (for example, the noose loops could have been connected to the ropes via magnets that could be separated with a light pull.)

What is the Korean Medallion trick Penn referenced for Akaido and what is the variation he and his brother did to it?

I’m quoting this because it saves me explaining which trick I’m talking about. Nobody mentioned seeing this. I was shocked that, having seen it, that Penn & Teller were fooled. I thought for sure this would tip what he was doing.

“With your left hand, you felt a hairbrush. You’re sure about this?”

This is when he’s reaching behind the trick box and pulling out a black-ish. . .baglike object from within it that he then sticks to the back of his coat, and it hangs below his coat and sticks out backwards a bit. If you continue to watch carefully, as he turns, and especially as he as puts the cactus back on his display shelf, you can see the bag. Watch as he says, “Now finally, finally, I will change your perception.” he places the bag on the stand behind the cactus. It might be a black velvet item shaped to feel like a teddy bear, which is what Alison feels, right before she says she feels a hairbrush.

I think that the table top the trick box is sitting on may be a bit deeper than we might think at first. Also, the table is supported with 4 round, tubelike legs, and the base of the table is a black box. The base is quite far from the trick box, but I’ve learned to understand that almost nothing in tricks like these are accidents. It’s possible that he is transporting collapsible items to/from the base. It’s more probably sleight-of-hand, though

He puts his hand behind the box after Alison feels the, “grapes and grass”, and before the wine glass is revealed. I think he finds a way to subtly put his hand back there after every time she feels something, but before the reveal. Finally, I noticed that Alison is not putting her hand/arm very far into the box.

I feel like there are things here that someone could pick apart and possibly understand what he’s doing, but I think I’m done. I just thought I’d post what I noticed. I saw the black ‘bag’ hanging off of him, and his disposing of it, on first viewing, and I saw him sticking his hand behind the box between the ‘feel’ and the ‘reveal’, but the rest was noticed on repeat viewings.

It was a great trick, and I quite enjoyed it. I’m still surprised though, given what I saw, that Penn and Teller were fooled.

Episode 3 (?) - The “cardistry girl” - wow. No idea how she did that.

S06E04 - 7/8/19

Anna Deguzman - talented cardistry magic. I’m not sure what Penn was alluding to when he talked about her having a good memory (memorizing the deck?), but I thought the six of hearts was a straightforward force. She clearly juggled the cards in her hands, I’m just not sure how she could have counted down 24 cards in the untouched deck.

Raffaele Scircoli - creepy human puppet (*fooler). So “bone conduction” was apparently 1 of 3 methods used here and they apparently ruled out the possibility of an earpiece while examining the mask/plugs. How else would the human participant know to raise three fingers or stand up and take a step forward without direct instruction? (And what is the point of ear plugs if he can still hear everything the guy is saying?)

Allen Abbott - poor goldfish in shot glasses. I never saw him turn off the lamp at the end, so I’m guessing it was a trick of stage lighting (or maybe in the shade itself), but I assume the fish were in the lightbulb the entire time (and obviously not the original ones manipulated in the glasses).

Axel Hecklau - driver’s license from elsewhere. So, smoke and mirrors aside, “nest of envelopes” was a new concept to me. Something about him smuggling it in via the application form? (I watched it again and still didn’t catch it.) Also, did anyone else pay close attention to the ID card to make sure that “Teller” is actually his legal name? :slight_smile:

P&T - secret coding techniques - honestly, this was very impressive and I’m not sure what Teller’s “tells” were.

Also, sidebar: That Penn & Teller VR prank game F U, U, U, & U (Frankly Unfair, Unkind, Unnecessary, and Underhanded) came out today on PSVR (June 27 on other devices). I’m curious if anyone here has tried it out. It basically seems like an updated version of their old VHS tape, Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends.

(I'm so glad it doesn't require you to drive around for 8 hours in a bus.)

Here’s the trick on YouTube.

If you freeze it when Axel reveals the license (about 5:05 to the video), you can see it says Teller. That’s his legal name. He was born Raymond Joseph Teller and has legally shortened it to just his surname.

Teller gets into his frozen position before the guest shows him the face of the card. However, before getting into position, Teller did watch him choose the card from the deck. So possibly the back of the cards were uniquely marked in a way that was obvious only to Teller, and the position he adopted (for example, the placement of his hands, feet, head, and body) was the code that Penn read.